FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Starman · Jan 14, 2013

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YankeeFan said:

So, what's the over/under on the date the first Chinese built Jeep is imported into America -- and Mitt Romney is vindicated?

Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne said the automaker plans to build some Jeeps in China for the local market — and later, in Russia.

"As part of our global expansion of the Jeep brand, there are some cars — that because of the price position in the market — can never be made in the U.S. and exported," Marchionne told reporters on the sidelines of the North American International Auto Show. "We're going to be announcing the first step in the globalization of Jeep (in China). There's another one that's going to come in Russia. These things are part of a natural process of expansion."

Marchionne said he will keep "the pillar cars of the Jeep (brand) in the United States. Wrangler is one. The Grand Cherokee is another. These are things that need to be protected because they represent the best and the essence of Jeep. If you tell me I cannot make a Patriot somewhere else, I might as well go out of the market."

Marchionne came under harsh criticism from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who falsely suggested that Chrysler would shift production from Ohio to China of the Jeep brand. The Romney ad on the issue was branded the "lie of the year" by fact checker "Politifact."

Marchionne rejected Romney's assertion in a letter to employees last fall. "I set the record straight to our people," he said. "We live in a world where we tell each other the truth and I think the stuff that was coming out was improperly phrased — it certainly was not reflective of the position of Chrysler."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130114/AUTO04/301140373#ixzz2HzKUylUo
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In the year 2525, if man is still alive

Inky_Wretch · Jan 14, 2013

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

YankeeFan said:

Inky_Wretch said:

YankeeFan said:

So, what's the over/under on the date the first Chinese built Jeep is imported into America -- and Mitt Romney is vindicated?

Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne said the automaker plans to build some Jeeps in China for the local market — and later, in Russia.

"As part of our global expansion of the Jeep brand, there are some cars — that because of the price position in the market — can never be made in the U.S. and exported," Marchionne told reporters on the sidelines of the North American International Auto Show. "We're going to be announcing the first step in the globalization of Jeep (in China). There's another one that's going to come in Russia. These things are part of a natural process of expansion."

Marchionne said he will keep "the pillar cars of the Jeep (brand) in the United States. Wrangler is one. The Grand Cherokee is another. These are things that need to be protected because they represent the best and the essence of Jeep. If you tell me I cannot make a Patriot somewhere else, I might as well go out of the market."

Marchionne came under harsh criticism from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who falsely suggested that Chrysler would shift production from Ohio to China of the Jeep brand. The Romney ad on the issue was branded the "lie of the year" by fact checker "Politifact."

Marchionne rejected Romney's assertion in a letter to employees last fall. "I set the record straight to our people," he said. "We live in a world where we tell each other the truth and I think the stuff that was coming out was improperly phrased — it certainly was not reflective of the position of Chrysler."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130114/AUTO04/301140373#ixzz2HzKUylUo
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I'll go with never.
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Bad choice.

How do we ever decide you've won the bet?
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OK, more than 20 years.

I grew up on at father's Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealership. During the kerfuffle, I asked him about it and he said they won't import Jeeps because it will kill sales. My gosh, you should have seen the disgust Jeep fans had for the square headlights from the mid-80s to mid-90s. And that was a cosmetic change.

Batman · Jan 14, 2013

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but it's sometimes hard to keep up on this thread. Has anyone mentioned the trillion dollar coin idea yet?
That this was a) even seriously discussed; and b) endorsed by some people who allegedly have a brain in their head (Paul Krugman ought to give back his Nobel prize for saying it's a good idea) leads me to believe we're in incredibly capable hands.
To its credit, the Obama administration did nix the idea, even if they used it to fling another attack at those no-good Republicans.
It's just as well, too. Some Capitol Hill janitor would probably get hold of it and try to use it in a vending machine.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/276833-treasury-department-rules-out-trillion-dollar-coin

Tarheel316 · Jan 14, 2013

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

Inky_Wretch said:

YankeeFan said:

Inky_Wretch said:

YankeeFan said:

So, what's the over/under on the date the first Chinese built Jeep is imported into America -- and Mitt Romney is vindicated?

Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne said the automaker plans to build some Jeeps in China for the local market — and later, in Russia.

"As part of our global expansion of the Jeep brand, there are some cars — that because of the price position in the market — can never be made in the U.S. and exported," Marchionne told reporters on the sidelines of the North American International Auto Show. "We're going to be announcing the first step in the globalization of Jeep (in China). There's another one that's going to come in Russia. These things are part of a natural process of expansion."

Marchionne said he will keep "the pillar cars of the Jeep (brand) in the United States. Wrangler is one. The Grand Cherokee is another. These are things that need to be protected because they represent the best and the essence of Jeep. If you tell me I cannot make a Patriot somewhere else, I might as well go out of the market."

Marchionne came under harsh criticism from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who falsely suggested that Chrysler would shift production from Ohio to China of the Jeep brand. The Romney ad on the issue was branded the "lie of the year" by fact checker "Politifact."

Marchionne rejected Romney's assertion in a letter to employees last fall. "I set the record straight to our people," he said. "We live in a world where we tell each other the truth and I think the stuff that was coming out was improperly phrased — it certainly was not reflective of the position of Chrysler."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130114/AUTO04/301140373#ixzz2HzKUylUo
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I'll go with never.
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Bad choice.

How do we ever decide you've won the bet?
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OK, more than 20 years.

I grew up on at father's Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealership. During the kerfuffle, I asked him about it and he said they won't import Jeeps because it will kill sales. My gosh, you should have seen the disgust Jeep fans had for the square headlights from the mid-80s to mid-90s. And that was a cosmetic change.
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The only real Jeep is a Wrangler.

GeorgeFHayek · Jan 14, 2013

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Batman said:

Apologies if this has been discussed, but it's sometimes hard to keep up on this thread. Has anyone mentioned the trillion dollar coin idea yet?
That this was a) even seriously discussed; and b) endorsed by some people who allegedly have a brain in their head (Paul Krugman ought to give back his Nobel prize for saying it's a good idea) leads me to believe we're in incredibly capable hands.
To its credit, the Obama administration did nix the idea, even if they used it to fling another attack at those no-good Republicans.
It's just as well, too. Some Capitol Hill janitor would probably get hold of it and try to use it in a vending machine.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/276833-treasury-department-rules-out-trillion-dollar-coin
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Would have taken two to tango on that play -- the Treasury and the Fed -- and the Fed ruled it out the other day.

Boom_70 · Jan 14, 2013

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Tarheel316 said:

Inky_Wretch said:

YankeeFan said:

Inky_Wretch said:

YankeeFan said:

So, what's the over/under on the date the first Chinese built Jeep is imported into America -- and Mitt Romney is vindicated?

Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne said the automaker plans to build some Jeeps in China for the local market — and later, in Russia.

"As part of our global expansion of the Jeep brand, there are some cars — that because of the price position in the market — can never be made in the U.S. and exported," Marchionne told reporters on the sidelines of the North American International Auto Show. "We're going to be announcing the first step in the globalization of Jeep (in China). There's another one that's going to come in Russia. These things are part of a natural process of expansion."

Marchionne said he will keep "the pillar cars of the Jeep (brand) in the United States. Wrangler is one. The Grand Cherokee is another. These are things that need to be protected because they represent the best and the essence of Jeep. If you tell me I cannot make a Patriot somewhere else, I might as well go out of the market."

Marchionne came under harsh criticism from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who falsely suggested that Chrysler would shift production from Ohio to China of the Jeep brand. The Romney ad on the issue was branded the "lie of the year" by fact checker "Politifact."

Marchionne rejected Romney's assertion in a letter to employees last fall. "I set the record straight to our people," he said. "We live in a world where we tell each other the truth and I think the stuff that was coming out was improperly phrased — it certainly was not reflective of the position of Chrysler."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130114/AUTO04/301140373#ixzz2HzKUylUo
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I'll go with never.
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Bad choice.

How do we ever decide you've won the bet?
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OK, more than 20 years.

I grew up on at father's Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealership. During the kerfuffle, I asked him about it and he said they won't import Jeeps because it will kill sales. My gosh, you should have seen the disgust Jeep fans had for the square headlights from the mid-80s to mid-90s. And that was a cosmetic change.
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The only real Jeep is a Wrangler.
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With round headlights.

Tarheel316 · Jan 15, 2013

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Boom_70 said:

Tarheel316 said:

Inky_Wretch said:

YankeeFan said:

Inky_Wretch said:

YankeeFan said:

So, what's the over/under on the date the first Chinese built Jeep is imported into America -- and Mitt Romney is vindicated?

Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne said the automaker plans to build some Jeeps in China for the local market — and later, in Russia.

"As part of our global expansion of the Jeep brand, there are some cars — that because of the price position in the market — can never be made in the U.S. and exported," Marchionne told reporters on the sidelines of the North American International Auto Show. "We're going to be announcing the first step in the globalization of Jeep (in China). There's another one that's going to come in Russia. These things are part of a natural process of expansion."

Marchionne said he will keep "the pillar cars of the Jeep (brand) in the United States. Wrangler is one. The Grand Cherokee is another. These are things that need to be protected because they represent the best and the essence of Jeep. If you tell me I cannot make a Patriot somewhere else, I might as well go out of the market."

Marchionne came under harsh criticism from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who falsely suggested that Chrysler would shift production from Ohio to China of the Jeep brand. The Romney ad on the issue was branded the "lie of the year" by fact checker "Politifact."

Marchionne rejected Romney's assertion in a letter to employees last fall. "I set the record straight to our people," he said. "We live in a world where we tell each other the truth and I think the stuff that was coming out was improperly phrased — it certainly was not reflective of the position of Chrysler."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130114/AUTO04/301140373#ixzz2HzKUylUo
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I'll go with never.
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Bad choice.

How do we ever decide you've won the bet?
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OK, more than 20 years.

I grew up on at father's Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealership. During the kerfuffle, I asked him about it and he said they won't import Jeeps because it will kill sales. My gosh, you should have seen the disgust Jeep fans had for the square headlights from the mid-80s to mid-90s. And that was a cosmetic change.
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The only real Jeep is a Wrangler.
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With round headlights.
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Absolutely. That's what I drive.

Azrael · Jan 15, 2013

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The last real Jeep was the CJ 5.

93Devil · Jan 15, 2013

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/glenn-beck-announces-plan-independence-usa-233854956.html

Yep, the base is forming a cult.

Right-wing rabble-rouser Glenn Beck recently announced that he wanted to "go Galt" and create a self-sustaining community, inspired by the philosophy of Ayn Rand's character John Galt from "Atlas Shrugged."
The community will be known as Independence, USA. If and when it is completed, Independence will produce its own food and TV and film content. There will be homes, baseball fields and a theme park. Think: Small Town, USA, but with a Beckish vibe.
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cranberry · Jan 15, 2013

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93Devil said:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/glenn-beck-announces-plan-independence-usa-233854956.html

Yep, the base is forming a cult.

Right-wing rabble-rouser Glenn Beck recently announced that he wanted to "go Galt" and create a self-sustaining community, inspired by the philosophy of Ayn Rand's character John Galt from "Atlas Shrugged."
The community will be known as Independence, USA. If and when it is completed, Independence will produce its own food and TV and film content. There will be homes, baseball fields and a theme park. Think: Small Town, USA, but with a Beckish vibe.
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Awesome. When they don't pay their federal taxes we can put a big barb-wire fence around it and re-name it Prison.

4OctaveFart · Jan 15, 2013

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Big brother is watching.

cranberry · Jan 15, 2013

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You thought all those cameras at the intersections were installed to catch people running lights?

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