FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

He's a senator talking about the principle of firing people for screwing up. I think it's fair to ask him that if he were a senator at that time, would he have called on Bush to resign. Or, if he was president at that time, would he have resigned?

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

Except he did read the memo ... which said absolutely nothing new.

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

And since it said nothing new, that means there was previous warnings. Which he ignored.

Like Hillary said yesterday, she gets thousands of cables. Do they expect her to react to every single one? If they did, then Bush should have reacted to the Bin Laden memo.

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

Ahem.

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

Just returned.
I combed through a few of your posts.
I don't know what use this exercise is to either of us.
Check any number of locked threads for your defenses of the president's policies.
Back to politics.
My left foot is on the gunwale, my right arm throws the coils of slender rope.

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

The issue of wealth inequality back then is conveniently ignored now.

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

It's not?

Perhaps I should have said "selling point."

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

No you didn't.

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

You're getting warm ...

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

The issue was just as big in the northern colonies where slavery didn't play a large part in society.

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

So on the continuum of progressivism I specified - from the Republican La Folette to the Socialist/anachist/unionist Joe Hill - you're going to tell me that the central premise of Progressivism at the time wasn't an opposition to the trusts and the robber barons and the improvement of the lot of the 'little fella' by means both economic and political?

 

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

Progressivism is absolutely not premised on helping "the little fella." It is premised on seizing the commanding heights of a nation's economic and social life and placing control of these in the hands of fewer and fewer people. These people, angels no doubt, will of course act only to ensure that "the little fella" gets a fairer shake.

That Progressivism sells itself as ameliorative to the plight of "the little fella" is good marketing, I'll grant you. But let's not kid ourselves here.