FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

BenPoquette · Jan 30, 2013

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Boom_70 said:

Benghazi and Fast and Furious are happy diversions for the administration. They have sent the Republicans off on a wild goose chase and have diverted eyes off the economy. In the political chess match Obama and his advisers have always been one step ahead of the competition.
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Fast and Furious, absolutely. I say that is akin to the whole birth certificate idiocy. Benghazi is a different animal. That isn't a "happy" anything. It was a massacre and a cover-up. It will eventually all come out. When it does I think a lot of people will be shocked. This has nothing to do with any chess match, this was and is a serious problem for the Administration that will, in my estimation, lead to arrests and convictions. It will also end any hope Hillary had of being president. People do not ignore dead Marines when it looks like they could have been saved, and lies were told about it after the fact.

If Hillary runs in 2016 her testimony will be used as a sledge-hammer against her. As well is should be. It does make a difference when the American people are lied to about what happened in a situation where Marines were killed.

Captain Obvious · Jan 30, 2013

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BenPoquette said:

Boom_70 said:

Benghazi and Fast and Furious are happy diversions for the administration. They have sent the Republicans off on a wild goose chase and have diverted eyes off the economy. In the political chess match Obama and his advisers have always been one step ahead of the competition.
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Fast and Furious, absolutely. I say that is akin to the whole birth certificate idiocy. Benghazi is a different animal. That isn't a "happy" anything. It was a massacre and a cover-up. It will eventually all come out. When it does I think a lot of people will be shocked. This has nothing to do with any chess match, this was and is a serious problem for the Administration that will, in my estimation, lead to arrests and convictions. It will also end any hope Hillary had of being president. People do not ignore dead Marines when it looks like they could have been saved, and lies were told about it after the fact.

If Hillary runs in 2016 her testimony will be used as a sledge-hammer against her. As well is should be. It does make a difference when the American people are lied to about what happened in a situation where Marines were killed.
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Where was the concern about dead Marines in 1983?

Baron Scicluna · Jan 30, 2013

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Captain Obvious said:

BenPoquette said:

Boom_70 said:

Benghazi and Fast and Furious are happy diversions for the administration. They have sent the Republicans off on a wild goose chase and have diverted eyes off the economy. In the political chess match Obama and his advisers have always been one step ahead of the competition.
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Fast and Furious, absolutely. I say that is akin to the whole birth certificate idiocy. Benghazi is a different animal. That isn't a "happy" anything. It was a massacre and a cover-up. It will eventually all come out. When it does I think a lot of people will be shocked. This has nothing to do with any chess match, this was and is a serious problem for the Administration that will, in my estimation, lead to arrests and convictions. It will also end any hope Hillary had of being president. People do not ignore dead Marines when it looks like they could have been saved, and lies were told about it after the fact.

If Hillary runs in 2016 her testimony will be used as a sledge-hammer against her. As well is should be. It does make a difference when the American people are lied to about what happened in a situation where Marines were killed.
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Where was the concern about dead Marines in 1983?
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Where was the concern over 4,000 dead American soldiers in the last decade?

Oh, silly me, I forgot. "They volunteered".

Tom Petty · Jan 30, 2013

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Baron Scicluna said:

Captain Obvious said:

BenPoquette said:

Boom_70 said:

Benghazi and Fast and Furious are happy diversions for the administration. They have sent the Republicans off on a wild goose chase and have diverted eyes off the economy. In the political chess match Obama and his advisers have always been one step ahead of the competition.
Click to expand...

Fast and Furious, absolutely. I say that is akin to the whole birth certificate idiocy. Benghazi is a different animal. That isn't a "happy" anything. It was a massacre and a cover-up. It will eventually all come out. When it does I think a lot of people will be shocked. This has nothing to do with any chess match, this was and is a serious problem for the Administration that will, in my estimation, lead to arrests and convictions. It will also end any hope Hillary had of being president. People do not ignore dead Marines when it looks like they could have been saved, and lies were told about it after the fact.

If Hillary runs in 2016 her testimony will be used as a sledge-hammer against her. As well is should be. It does make a difference when the American people are lied to about what happened in a situation where Marines were killed.
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Where was the concern about dead Marines in 1983?
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Where was the concern over 4,000 dead American soldiers in the last decade?

Oh, silly me, I forgot. "They volunteered".
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well, there were those weapons of mass destruction to be found in the iraqi desert.

Tom Petty · Jan 30, 2013

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old_tony said:

So you're pro-life? Or is that one of the the salad-bar parts you pass over?
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read leviticus 19:19 much or do you just pass that one by like the little corn on the cob and the french dressing?

i mean my god, i'd sure hate to see you accuse a man of something and then do the very same thing each and every day of your life ... and twice during gardening season.

Tom Petty · Jan 30, 2013

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for you, OT:

"'When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him."

don't forget the next verse! "The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God."

http://bible.cc/leviticus/19-33.htm

Azrael · Jan 30, 2013

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Mamet on guns, fisked, debunked.

www.salon.com/2013/01/29/david_mamet_should_stick_to_writing_plays/

Azrael · Jan 30, 2013

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Bill Gates, socialist.

www.thelocal.de/money/20130129-47605.html#.UQkJWOis0dR

Ben_Hecht · Jan 30, 2013

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Flying Headbutt said:

I don't know how Graham can, on the one hand, want to have a notable US presence in every unstable, war torn land around the world. And yet at the same time, he expects it all to be flowers and kumbaya. No matter how many times it proves to be fallacy, he thinks the US simply being there is all that's needed for peace and stability. It's unfortunate that this sort of thing happens. But the politicizing it is pretty sickening, and most of America is fed up with it. Only the wing nuttiest of neocons really think this is something worth politicizing. That's not to say lessons can't be learned and that mistakes weren't made. But it's still pretty pathetic and transparent just what's going on here.
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Little else can be expected from Sen. McCain's personal cabana boy.

Baron Scicluna · Jan 30, 2013

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MisterCreosote said:

Captain Obvious said:

BenPoquette said:

Boom_70 said:

Benghazi and Fast and Furious are happy diversions for the administration. They have sent the Republicans off on a wild goose chase and have diverted eyes off the economy. In the political chess match Obama and his advisers have always been one step ahead of the competition.
Click to expand...

Fast and Furious, absolutely. I say that is akin to the whole birth certificate idiocy. Benghazi is a different animal. That isn't a "happy" anything. It was a massacre and a cover-up. It will eventually all come out. When it does I think a lot of people will be shocked. This has nothing to do with any chess match, this was and is a serious problem for the Administration that will, in my estimation, lead to arrests and convictions. It will also end any hope Hillary had of being president. People do not ignore dead Marines when it looks like they could have been saved, and lies were told about it after the fact.

If Hillary runs in 2016 her testimony will be used as a sledge-hammer against her. As well is should be. It does make a difference when the American people are lied to about what happened in a situation where Marines were killed.
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Where was the concern about dead Marines in 1983?
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I miss the days before Jan. 20, 2009, when everyone in America lived in blissful ignorance and blind acceptance of what the government was doing.
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And those who didn't were unpatriotic and hated America.

Azrael · Jan 30, 2013

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Another 'surge'?

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/01/30/president-obamas-popularity-surges-to-three-year-high/

GeorgeFHayek · Jan 30, 2013

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Azrael said:

Mamet on guns, fisked, debunked.

www.salon.com/2013/01/29/david_mamet_should_stick_to_writing_plays/
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Pisses me off. How dare they imply that the true proportion of people who have been in contact with aliens is zero?

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