FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Tom Petty · Feb 5, 2013

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Armchair_QB said:

dooley_womack1 said:

Funny that about six years ago, AQB didn't have any complaints about torture.

HMMMMM
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I don't have any complaints now so go fuck yourself.

Just think it's so funny that the Obama apologists desperately want to believe that the First Kenyan doesn't allow torture now.
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"left-handed kenyan," fucktard.

LanceyHoward · Feb 5, 2013

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Tarheel316 said:

Baron Scicluna said:

LanceyHoward said:

In the midst of this dialogue about whether Obama I would like to thank the President for Obamacare.

Before New Year's Eve I was chronically fatigued. I thought is was due to eating to much over Christams and the fact that I had had not been putting in my three hours a week on a cross trainer due to a sprained ankle and gotten out of shape.

That morning I got tired going down the stairs. So I decided to go see my family doctor at 10:00 A.M. who sent me to the emergency room. It turns out my heart had stopped contracting properly and my heart rate was 130 or so. And when your heart pumps that fast you will get fatigue. I have atrial fibrilaltion. The emergency room gave me medication which I will probably take the rest of my life and I was back home by 4:00 P.M.

But in those six hours I discovered I had a pre-existing condition. I am 55. If I lose my job where the hell am I going to get insurance tp cover my increased risk of a major medical event. The Republicans keep trying to repeal Obamacare with without including a replacement. So I say hail Obamacare.
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According to the Republican Party, if you can't afford health care, you might as well just drop dead.

And before any GOPers here complain, remember, your party had six years in charge to get rid of pre-existing conditions. Instead, your party chose to focus on changing the cafeteria menu to freedom fries.
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No question about that. The GOP has a very social darwinist view of health care. Can't afford it? Die.

Lancey, take care of yourself.
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Thank all for the best wishes. I feel fine now that I am on medication. I just wanted to make a point about Obamacare and how it is going to help many people.

Starman · Feb 5, 2013

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Like the screeching anti-Obamacare mob gives a shit about that.

Remember, those were the same banshees who screamed "let him die" when the hypothetical of an uninsured guy showing up at the ER came up in one of their "debates."

Boom_70 · Feb 5, 2013

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Drones coming to a neighborhood near you:

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/04/16843014-exclusive-justice-department-memo-reveals-legal-case-for-drone-strikes-on-americans?lite

Imagine if this was a George Bush policy.

Azrael · Feb 5, 2013

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It was Bush policy.

Tarheel316 · Feb 5, 2013

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Starman said:

Like the screeching anti-Obamacare mob gives a shit about that.

Remember, those were the same banshees who screamed "let him die" when the hypothetical of an uninsured guy showing up at the ER came up in one of their "debates."
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I remember that well. That was disgusting.

GeorgeFHayek · Feb 5, 2013

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Baron Scicluna said:

According to the Republican Party, if you can't afford health care, you might as well just drop dead.

And before any GOPers here complain, remember, your party had six years in charge to get rid of pre-existing conditions. Instead, your party chose to focus on changing the cafeteria menu to freedom fries.
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Never let facts get in the way of the story you want to tell ...

In his 2007 SOTU address, President Bush laid out a proposal to for reforming the health insurance market that was praised by, among others, the Urban Institute, The Washington Post, and The Economist. In response, those ever-progressive (and never, never, never obstructionist) Democrats in Congress proclaimed it "dead on arrival."

Azrael · Feb 5, 2013

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GeorgeFHayek said:

Baron Scicluna said:

According to the Republican Party, if you can't afford health care, you might as well just drop dead.

And before any GOPers here complain, remember, your party had six years in charge to get rid of pre-existing conditions. Instead, your party chose to focus on changing the cafeteria menu to freedom fries.
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Never let facts get in the way of the story you want to tell ...

In his 2007 SOTU address, President Bush laid out a proposal to for reforming the health insurance market that was praised by, among others, the Urban Institute, The Washington Post, and The Economist. In response, those ever-progressive (and never, never, never obstructionist) Democrats in Congress proclaimed it "dead on arrival."
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That plan also raised middle-class taxes, did it not? And what, specifically, per Scicluna, did it do to ameliorate "pre-existing condition" hocus-pocus on the part of the insurance companies?

Boom_70 · Feb 5, 2013

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Azrael said:

It was Bush policy.
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Killing Americans? Not doubting you Az but I would like to see your work on that.

I find it interesting that this "secret policy memo" has been leaked. One has to wonder for what purpose.

Uncle.Ruckus · Feb 5, 2013

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BOTH SIDES DO IT! TRUTH IS IN THE MIDDLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boom_70 · Feb 5, 2013

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GeorgeFHayek said:

Baron Scicluna said:

According to the Republican Party, if you can't afford health care, you might as well just drop dead.

And before any GOPers here complain, remember, your party had six years in charge to get rid of pre-existing conditions. Instead, your party chose to focus on changing the cafeteria menu to freedom fries.
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Never let facts get in the way of the story you want to tell ...

In his 2007 SOTU address, President Bush laid out a proposal to for reforming the health insurance market that was praised by, among others, the Urban Institute, The Washington Post, and The Economist. In response, those ever-progressive (and never, never, never obstructionist) Democrats in Congress proclaimed it "dead on arrival."
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The seniors seemed to like The Bush Medicare drug plan, has that been done away with under Obamacare?

Azrael · Feb 5, 2013

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Boom_70 said:

Azrael said:

It was Bush policy.
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Killing Americans? Not doubting you Az but I would like to see your work on that.

I find it interesting that this "secret policy memo" has been leaked. One has to wonder for what purpose.
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Google "Kamal Derwish."

The difference is that we've increased the frequency of drone attacks, and written down the policy.

Don't get me wrong, I abhor the policy and the practice - but let's not pretend this isn't an extension of a set of "pre-existing conditions."

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