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Inky_Wretch · Feb 6, 2013

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Postal Service ending Saturday deliveries in August.

Inky_Wretch · Feb 6, 2013

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MisterCreosote said:

Inky_Wretch said:

Postal Service ending Saturday deliveries in August.
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Not ALL Saturday delivery, but that hasn't stopped the majority of headline writers from claiming so.
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Packages only, right? No more first-class mail and magazines on Saturday?

Boom_70 · Feb 6, 2013

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MisterCreosote said:

Packages, mail-order medications, priority and express mail will still be delivered. Most post offices will remain open on Saturdays, too.
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Really a non event and a step that should have been taken long ago.

BNWriter · Feb 6, 2013

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Inky_Wretch said:

Postal Service ending Saturday deliveries in August.
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I saw a newspaper article about a year ago that said the government has been threatening this since 1957. They were threatening this when I was in HS in the mid-70s. Now, I guess, it will really come to pass.

YankeeFan · Feb 6, 2013

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Boom_70 said:

MisterCreosote said:

Packages, mail-order medications, priority and express mail will still be delivered. Most post offices will remain open on Saturdays, too.
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Really a non event and a step that should have been taken long ago.
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They should end it on Tuesdays & Thursdays too. Or at least Wednesdays.

old_tony · Feb 6, 2013

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Tarheel316 said:

old_tony said:

Tarheel316 said:

GeorgeFHayek said:

Tarheel316 said:

Are you making fun of Lancey's situation?
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I don't think so. I think he's making light of the interpretation of Lancey's situation. I am sure he/she is, like me, pleased that Lancey's condition was treatable (rather easily, it seems) and is not a serious cause for immediate and/or long-term concern.

I'll be the first to admit here that the whole pre-existing conditions challenge is a tough nut to crack. At my age I've seen this play out numerous times, and I certainly understand this as a root of dissatisfaction with the current (actually, the on-the-way-out) system. Most recently I had a first cousin whose older (late teens) son was diagnosed with cancer. Fortunately for him the cancer was caught early and the surgery/chemo regimen was (apparently) very successful. Unfortunately for him, he'll always have that pre-existing condition, which means that unless he goes to work for: 1) the government; or 2) some big firm, he's going to have both the cancer shadow AND the insurance shadow chasing him. I have serious problems with any system set up that way.

On the other hand, our health care system as it is emerged under a regime of insurance as primary financing mechanism, which means that an alternative approach (i.e., one in which insurance really is insurance, rather than prepaid health care) can't, as a practical, political matter, get a fair hearing. I think this is terribly unfortunate since what evidence there is (and there's not much, but there's some) suggests such a transition would be a very, very positive outcome.
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That's some good analysis. I just don't it's right for people to be bankrupted by medical bills. It's immoral. For starters, fee-for-service has got to go.
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Great. Too bad Obamacare is set up to bankrupt people even before their first medical bill arrives.
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I have said all along that health care costs too much.
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And the solution ObamaCare brings is to also make health insurance cost too much. Great.

YankeeFan · Feb 6, 2013

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Jimmy Fallon on John Kerry's decision to sign his personal tweets on the State Department's twitter feed with the initials "JK":

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/monologue/n32412/

(Starts at about 1:14 in)

Tarheel316 · Feb 6, 2013

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old_tony said:

Tarheel316 said:

old_tony said:

Tarheel316 said:

GeorgeFHayek said:

Tarheel316 said:

Are you making fun of Lancey's situation?
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I don't think so. I think he's making light of the interpretation of Lancey's situation. I am sure he/she is, like me, pleased that Lancey's condition was treatable (rather easily, it seems) and is not a serious cause for immediate and/or long-term concern.

I'll be the first to admit here that the whole pre-existing conditions challenge is a tough nut to crack. At my age I've seen this play out numerous times, and I certainly understand this as a root of dissatisfaction with the current (actually, the on-the-way-out) system. Most recently I had a first cousin whose older (late teens) son was diagnosed with cancer. Fortunately for him the cancer was caught early and the surgery/chemo regimen was (apparently) very successful. Unfortunately for him, he'll always have that pre-existing condition, which means that unless he goes to work for: 1) the government; or 2) some big firm, he's going to have both the cancer shadow AND the insurance shadow chasing him. I have serious problems with any system set up that way.

On the other hand, our health care system as it is emerged under a regime of insurance as primary financing mechanism, which means that an alternative approach (i.e., one in which insurance really is insurance, rather than prepaid health care) can't, as a practical, political matter, get a fair hearing. I think this is terribly unfortunate since what evidence there is (and there's not much, but there's some) suggests such a transition would be a very, very positive outcome.
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That's some good analysis. I just don't it's right for people to be bankrupted by medical bills. It's immoral. For starters, fee-for-service has got to go.
Click to expand...

Great. Too bad Obamacare is set up to bankrupt people even before their first medical bill arrives.
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I have said all along that health care costs too much.
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And the solution ObamaCare brings is to also make health insurance cost too much. Great.
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Okay. You got a solution?

Boom_70 · Feb 6, 2013

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BNWriter said:

Inky_Wretch said:

Postal Service ending Saturday deliveries in August.
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I saw a newspaper article about a year ago that said the government has been threatening this since 1957. They were threatening this when I was in HS in the mid-70s. Now, I guess, it will really come to pass.
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We've been running out of water and going on the metric system since I was young also.

Boom_70 · Feb 6, 2013

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Oh and Amtrak is shutting down since 1968

YankeeFan · Feb 6, 2013

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The Ozone Layer should be completely gone any minute now.

Boom_70 · Feb 6, 2013

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YankeeFan said:

The Ozone Layer should be completely gone any minute now.
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All because of Right Guard Spray.

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