FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

I'd like to see a study on that.

 

Just read through dog's posts on the previous page. Don't know why he quoted me twice. Or quoted himself a few times.

 

Why then don't you conduct one? And while you're at it, count the number of posts by both of you that have contributed nothing related to the thread's topic.

Then with the numbers you find there, do something constructive: Create a POLITICS FOR KINDERGARTENERS thread.

 

You'd still be the dumbest guy in the room.

 

Well children, when you are gone, and there's some intelligent discussion going on, I'll return. Otherwise, please, keep your cookies at the table.

 

Because they didn't know?

But take a guess. I'd love to here your theory why they didn't know the full and true story right away.

I mean, if they were going to lie about it, couldn't they have like in a way that actually prevented embarrassment?


On one hand, it's:

"Lax security during a protest over a video led to an attack on our consulate and the death of four Americans."

On the other hand, it's:

"Lax security during an attack on our consulate led to the death of four Americans."


Is one version somehow really less embarrassing than the other?

 

That story is out now. It was a Petraeus CIA operation and they did not want it let out that those killed were under CIA contract.

 

Did you really think the Arab spring was going to usher in a bunch of secular democracies? Or should we have installed "our guy" because that's worked so well in the past? Shall we have a war with Iran or S. Korea when economic sanctions are already having a significant effect (oil production at a 30-year low in Iran and costing them tens of billions of dollars annually, for example). How much should we run up the deficit and body count by going to war again?

People who think we should or could bomb and missile our way to a safer world are just pathetic cowards.

 

If only President Ford (and the dynamic policy duo of Rumsfeld and Cheney) hadn't insisted upon putting Iran on a nuclear footing all those years ago!

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3983-2005Mar26.html

And yeah, Arab Spring. I thought delivering the purple thumb of self-determination to the middle east was official administration policy 2000 - 2008 inclusive.

www.presidentialrhetoric.com/speeches/03.08.05.html

 

McCain doesn't have a problem with Hagel.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2013/02/mccain-largely-satisfied-on-hagel-157055.html?hp=t1_b2

 

If ginning up Benghazi didn't move the electorate in October and November, it's going to have even less usefulness this time, other than proving the GOP is willing to eat its own, again and again, despite all the bones it chokes on while doing so.

 

Hagel cloture vote going on now.

Does he get the 60 votes he needs? I don't think so.