FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

I think some version of it passes now, or you will see a political pounding of every possible Tea Party congressperson who drags their feet against it next primary season. My sense is, at long last, Republicans are getting tired of the bullshit, and tired of FNC peddling it.

What a Pandora's Box the GOP opened when it knocked on Sarah Palin's door.

 

Blanket attacks against Anyone But Your Party also are incorrect and shameful.

 

I wouldn't. It's silly stuff, occasionally, but hardly vicious. People would do better to simply discipline themselves against needing to have the last word with certain posters, or the need to comment on certain links. I think folks here are smart enough to know they haven't really lost a debate because one poster says so.

 

Complete idiots. And they might as well resign or retire. Marco Rubio was the face of this in the Senate, and his popularity has fallen 15 points. This bill is not going to pass the House...in fact I doubt Boehner even brings it up for a vote.

I love how the Democrats are telling the Republicans they have to pass this or it will hurt them politically. The Dems are certainly concerned about the future of the Republican Party, right?

The Hastert Rule will prevent this bill from coming up for a vote, and there will be exactly ZERO repercussions for the Republican House members. In fact, the biggest mistake they could make would be to support this bill, a bill conservatives cannot stand and do not trust.

 

You were Fart's date for the senior prom?

Shouldn't that have been posted on the bad dates thread?

 

The idea that the Democrats bullied 14 Republican senators into voting for this bill (and Jeb Bush into supporting it) is pure fantasy.

Maybe the bill is a good idea and the Tea Party are the extremists. That's what a person would more reasonably conclude, anyway.

 

Unless you're a Tea Party communications director, this post just doesn't seem credible.

"ZERO repercussions?"

 

The bill's a good enough idea. Further, the whole thing's designed to win the GOP votes in 2016.

Look: This mass manipulation and wailing routine that FNC and the Tea Party does is, ultimately, really hard work. It takes dogged effort in the face of prevailing common wisdom to beat this stuff back. At some point, older-school Republicans have to start battling back in all the new forms of media and start telling the "end the IRS" and "down with the Department of Education" bozos to shut up and get a pair of actual facts. It remains to be seen if they will.

The extremist wing of the GOP is not a policy machine. It's a grassroots movement of bitchery and obstacle-building. But it has a corner of the political landscape, and it will hold onto that corner, like a badger.

 

Alma, your concern for the Republican Party is heartwarming! However, I think it will handle this well enough on its own.

Unless the border is secured before any kind of Amnesty is given the House will not go for the deal. It's that simple.

 

Well, that's great. Then the GOP can figure out newer and better ways to keep appealing to a shrinking base.

I saw an article yesterday that California will soon have more Latinos than whites. New Mexico is already there. Nevada, Arizona and Texas won't be far behind. So I hope there is a 21st-century electoral map that works for the GOP without those states.

 

A European reaction to the monitoring and surveillance.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/europe-must-stand-up-to-american-cyber-snooping-a-906250.html

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/us-census-announces-those-people-will-be-majority,32810/