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FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Sep 21, 2012.

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  1. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    What does that mean? Illegal crossings are at decades lows already.

    The idea that the GOP is on solid ground is laughable right now. Yes, they have a house majority thanks to gerrymandered districts, which also means that challenges to the far right fringe from a more moderate candidate won't go very far. But the party has won ONE popular vote since 1988. I was in fourth grade then. And the kooky fringe that plays well in gerrymandered districts have also cost you states in the Senate that you should have, allowing Harry Reid the unfortunate opportunity to stay on as Senate Majority Leader.

    Meanwhile even with the strong majority in the House, leadership there can't even tie their shoes, much less get anything of substance passed. If partisanship will reign supreme there, the House will continue to tell America "no!" to pretty much anything, leaving the rest of us to wonder if they stand FOR anything. Because since 2008, the answer to that question has been the favorite word of the fringe kooks, "no, they don't."
     
    Flying Headbutt, Jul 2, 2013
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  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

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  3. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    The Republican party is just fine. They control enough of D.C. - the House and, basically, the Court - that the president and the Senate can't get anything done. And with D.C. paralyzed, they can focus on ramming their agenda through at the state level.
     
    Big Circus, Jul 2, 2013
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  4. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    That's actually a valid rebuttal. But eventually there will be more openings on the high court, and if it's a Democrat in charge of the executive office, the makeup could change. I know Roberts and Alito are young, relatively, and the oldest justices are liberals, but still...
     
    Flying Headbutt, Jul 2, 2013
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  5. BenPoquette

    BenPoquette Active Member

    What is a conservative party will never advance by embracing liberal ideas. It's that simple.
     
    BenPoquette, Jul 2, 2013
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  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    But what are "liberal ideas" anyway? Doesn't the definition change over the years?
     
    Inky_Wretch, Jul 2, 2013
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  7. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Sad situation (likely) for the Udall family. The brother of Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado and Sen. Tom Udall of New Mexico is missing after failing to return from a solo backpacking trip.

    http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/Brother-of-Sen-Mark-Udall-Missing-in-Wyoming.html
     
    Inky_Wretch, Jul 2, 2013
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  8. BenPoquette

    BenPoquette Active Member

    Absolutely things evolve. But the basic tenants of liberalism and conservatism remain fairly constant. Big government v. small government...tax and spend v. self-reliance...general ideas.

    The immigration bill the Senate passed is fairly liberal. Tell me this, if the 11 million they want to legalize could vote, which party would benefit? That's what I am saying.
     
    BenPoquette, Jul 2, 2013
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  9. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Like most Americans, the majority wouldn't vote. Of those that would vote would, most would probably vote for Democrats. But do they live in swing states where their votes would matter? Or would they be able to flip a red state blue?
     
    Inky_Wretch, Jul 2, 2013
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  10. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    That's been the idea for a long time. Not just the state level, but mayors, local school boards, county boards, etc.

    The problem with this is it awfully labor intensive and gains, while (laudably, IMO) real in some areas like abortion restrictions, are negligible in most places. And it's going to destroy education eventually. We have asshat boards comprised of folks who run on platforms like "more federalism in the 10th grade social studies class!" or "More American exceptionalism!"

    And health care passed. The ugliest of all uglies, if you ask a conservative. Getting that thing off the books will be a huge task.

    The GOP is far from fine. It has had, really since the second Bush election, very little interest in actual governance. This, fundamentally, is a problem.
     
    Alma, Jul 2, 2013
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  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    A good example of change would be how the Southern Democrats have changed over the years. In the 50 and 60's The Southern Liberal Democrats stood for segregation and it
    almost killed the party.
     
    Boom_70, Jul 2, 2013
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  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    How on God's green Earth can anyone depict these as somehow being opposing positions?
     
    doctorquant, Jul 2, 2013
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