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FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Sep 21, 2012.

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  1. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    The New Yorker obtained Bush's records illegally. That does not obligate Obama to release his college records or any other journalists to break the law trying to obtain them.
     
  2. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    From the start, I have seen more evidence he wasn't born here than evidence that he was.
    People who have doubts about where Obama was born are not acting irrationally or racist.
    Up until he announced for the presidency in 2008 he was advertised as having been born in Kenya - and he never corrected them.
    And even if he was born here, he is woefully out of step with our dreams, what makes us strong and our deepest values as a people.
     
  3. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Odd seeing an Obama sycophant so concerned about the law.
     
  4. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    If we've learned anything over the last five years, it's that the Constitution does not matter.
     
  5. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    Birth certificates and newspaper birth announcements are not valid evidence?
    Pay attention. The person who wrote it said she made a mistake. As I said, there were plenty of other articles written around that time saying he was born in Hawaii. People don't make mistakes?
    Besides, any scenario in which he could have been born in Kenya and had the birth registered in the U.S. is kind of far-fetched.
     
  6. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    The IRS doesn't target conservative groups.

    The NSA doesn't spy on Americans.
     
  7. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty big mistake to make.
    You have to fuck up pretty big to misidentify the origin of one's birth.
    You think your government is inherently honest. I have no patience for that idiocy, so good day.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but people usually correct errors in their bio, especially hen it's one being used on your behalf by someone working for you -- like your literary agent.

    But, I don't think it's evidence he was born in Kenya, or even that it was a mistake.

    It also says he was raised, in part, in Chicago.

    I don't believe he ever stepped foot in Chicago until he was a college graduate.

    It's just more evidence that he was happy to be defined in a way that suited him at the time. If being born in Kenya was a little white lie that might help sell a book, so be it.

    It's not like book was a factual accounting of his life. Why would we believe the literary agents bio was?
     
  9. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    "Lying about your background isn't grounds for dismissal."

    Sincerely,

    University of Notre Dame Head Coach George O'Leary
     
  10. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    His father has the same name and was born in Kenya. It's not that hard a mistake to make.
    What other evidence have you see that he was born in Kenya?
     
  11. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    You are an Obama supporter, so you have a high threshold for incompetence, but I expect better from people.
    The mistake should not have been made, if it was a mistake.
     
  12. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Again, liberals being concerned about evidence.

    How funny.
     
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