FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

old_tony · Oct 29, 2012

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TigerVols said:

Starman said:

old_tony said:

A perfect response to Lena Dumbhen.

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Butthurt from teabag cons wringing their hands about civil liberties violations and not ending wars soon enough is so cute!!

It's so charming that you finally care. Didn't seem to give a shit about any of that stuff for years and years.

But something really really dark must have happened to convince you to get concerned about it. Maybe your attitudes will lighten up when somebody else is in charge.
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Lena "Dumbhen"? And people wonder why women are leaving the Republican party in droves!

As for me, the wingers like OT have done the unthinkable -- they've made my like Lena. I may even watch her show with my wife without my usual smirking about her hipster smugness. Lena's, not my wife's.
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Because calling a dumb hen a dumb hen is so much more offensive than reducing women to their sex parts and telling them they can't survive without Barack buying their birth control. :

And this.

http://ap-gfkpoll.com/uncategorized/findings-from-our-latest-poll

The AP-GfK poll, taken Friday through Tuesday, shows Romney pulling even with Obama among women at 47-47 after lagging by 16 points a month earlier.
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Seems to me they're leaving Obama in droves.

Inky_Wretch · Oct 29, 2012

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Double Down said:

In case you thought Romney might walk back his "I think FEMA should be privatized" stance, it appears he will, at least until it becomes advantageous to reverse himself, stand by it. A spokesman said as late as this afternoon that Romeny think states should handle disaster relief, not the feds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/mitt-romney-fema_n_2036198.html
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Of course he will. Whatever it takes.

Alma · Oct 29, 2012

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GeorgeFHayek said:

Alma said:

To paint the Kochs as anything but formidable, win-at-any-cost types -- their own political advisor uses the word "ugly" to describe their smear campaigns -- is a deliberate, weak sauce troll, or it reveals you as a starry-eyed unicorn enthusiast.
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Come on, that's a b.s. play. Their political adviser didn't use that word to describe their effort. He/she used that to describe the scene that was going to emerge if they got involved politically. There's a difference. It's as if someone said, "If you do this, it's going to get ugly" and you interpret that as "You doing this would be ugly."
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I've read it more than once, and the "it's going to get ugly" combined with "doing it right" suggests, to me, he knew precisely what he was suggesting, that it was hard, but in his mind worth it.

Alma · Oct 29, 2012

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old_tony said:

Alma said:

old_tony said:

Alma said:

old_tony said:

Alma said:

He said no more or less than Obama did. Obama made a quip. Bush made a speech. Obama pushed health care. Bush went on a tour to privatize Social Security. They're both <i>huge</i> issues. Pet projects of their respective sides. They approached it exactly the same.

What's interesting to me is that, for all these jabs and one-liners you push, you're seriously holding it against Obama for not working with your side enough? The Koch Brothers, nasty as they are, aren't that naive. Politics in this country, especially now, is an inch-by-inch, hour-by-hour bare-knuckle fight. If you want to indict Obama for presuming he could rise above it, fine. But holding him to the standard of unity when your definition of unity, at least in the thread, is "everything I want, no exceptions" is Palinesque. Which is to say a child grown old.
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Yeah, I can understand how someone considers providing thousands of jobs and donating millions in charity would be "nasty." We certainly don't see such behavior from the left. :

Your statement proves you have no idea at all about the Kochs. Read something other than hard-left blogs.
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Your weakness as a debater blooms in this post. Of all the arguments you could make, you choose the postmodern/PR response that only people employed by the Kochs would bother to make. To paint the Kochs as anything but formidable, win-at-any-cost types -- their own political advisor uses the word "ugly" to describe their smear campaigns is a deliberate, weak sauce troll, or it reveals you as a starry-eyed unicorn enthusiast.
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Got that from Kos, right?
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I've never read a single word of his Web site. Never even been there.

You can either stay in the game or romp around with one-liners. You've been beaten so thoroughly on the "I won" critique that I suspect you're still looking for your mouthpiece.

There are lots of good arguments out there to make on the Koch Brothers' brand of nasty. The "how dare you!" tack ain't one of them.
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Yeah, I get it. Good philanthropists aren't your type.
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Yeah, I get it, too. You can't really debate. Good troll, though. Too bad.

Ronnie "Z-Man" Barzell · Oct 29, 2012

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old_tony said:

A perfect response to Lena Dumbhen.

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Boy, you guys still really suck at comedy.

old_tony · Oct 30, 2012

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Alma said:

old_tony said:

Alma said:

old_tony said:

Alma said:

old_tony said:

Alma said:

He said no more or less than Obama did. Obama made a quip. Bush made a speech. Obama pushed health care. Bush went on a tour to privatize Social Security. They're both <i>huge</i> issues. Pet projects of their respective sides. They approached it exactly the same.

What's interesting to me is that, for all these jabs and one-liners you push, you're seriously holding it against Obama for not working with your side enough? The Koch Brothers, nasty as they are, aren't that naive. Politics in this country, especially now, is an inch-by-inch, hour-by-hour bare-knuckle fight. If you want to indict Obama for presuming he could rise above it, fine. But holding him to the standard of unity when your definition of unity, at least in the thread, is "everything I want, no exceptions" is Palinesque. Which is to say a child grown old.
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Yeah, I can understand how someone considers providing thousands of jobs and donating millions in charity would be "nasty." We certainly don't see such behavior from the left. :

Your statement proves you have no idea at all about the Kochs. Read something other than hard-left blogs.
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Your weakness as a debater blooms in this post. Of all the arguments you could make, you choose the postmodern/PR response that only people employed by the Kochs would bother to make. To paint the Kochs as anything but formidable, win-at-any-cost types -- their own political advisor uses the word "ugly" to describe their smear campaigns is a deliberate, weak sauce troll, or it reveals you as a starry-eyed unicorn enthusiast.
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Got that from Kos, right?
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I've never read a single word of his Web site. Never even been there.

You can either stay in the game or romp around with one-liners. You've been beaten so thoroughly on the "I won" critique that I suspect you're still looking for your mouthpiece.

There are lots of good arguments out there to make on the Koch Brothers' brand of nasty. The "how dare you!" tack ain't one of them.
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Yeah, I get it. Good philanthropists aren't your type.
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Yeah, I get it, too. You can't really debate. Good troll, though. Too bad.
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So what is it you have against freedom-loving philanthropists who give more to charity than your top 100 favorite democrats?

Meatie Pie · Oct 30, 2012

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Don't get mad at others for walking past you with a mirror to reflect your blemishes.

If it's the first mirror you've seen, don't be scared, dude -- that creature is just you.

Alma · Oct 30, 2012

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Double Down said:

In case you thought Romney might walk back his "I think FEMA should be privatized" stance, it appears he will, at least until it becomes advantageous to reverse himself, stand by it. A spokesman said as late as this afternoon that Romeny think states should handle disaster relief, not the feds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/mitt-romney-fema_n_2036198.html
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Meh. He doesn't mean it. Or he thinks he means it, and stuff like that never ends up happening.

Oh, Lord, privatize disaster relief.

YGBFKM · Oct 30, 2012

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Inky_Wretch said:

Double Down said:

In case you thought Romney might walk back his "I think FEMA should be privatized" stance, it appears he will, at least until it becomes advantageous to reverse himself, stand by it. A spokesman said as late as this afternoon that Romeny think states should handle disaster relief, not the feds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/mitt-romney-fema_n_2036198.html
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Of course he will. Whatever it takes.
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Just learning how politics works?

hondo · Oct 30, 2012

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Baron Scicluna said:

Tarheel316 said:

Dick Whitman said:

Ayn Rand would have saved us.
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So we get Paul Ryan instead, the most dangerous politician of our lifetimes.
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Dick Cheney just laughed.
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So did Nancy Pelosi.

Mark2010 · Oct 30, 2012

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dog eat dog world said:

Eat shit there. There, I'm speaking about your diet. Here's hoping you're bitter as hell next Wednesday.
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The whining come next week is going to be epic, no matter who wins. Just reading all the rhetoric should provide enough humor to get me through the winter.

Mark2010 · Oct 30, 2012

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Johnny Dangerously said:

I remember when I had high hopes for this thread.

Wait, no I don't.
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Can you imagine what some of these jokers must be like in person? It's amazing they haven't started WWIII yet.

Oh, wait, I forgot, half of them are sock puppets.

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