FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

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In this modern time of the Internet and Youtube, if they don't they're stupid.

 

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Along the same lines it's fascinating to me on site mostly made up of writers is willing to give Biden as pass for his documented plagiarism. Mention Mike Barnicle on a thread and it's only a matter of seconds before someone brings of the "p" word. With Biden not so much.

 

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Q. FEMA is about to run out of money, and there are some people who say do it on a case-by-case basis and some people who say, you know, maybe we're learning a lesson here that the states should take on more of this role. How do you deal with something like that?

Romney: Absolutely. Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that's even better. Instead of thinking in the federal budget, what we should cut – we should ask ourselves the opposite question: What should we keep? We should take all of what we're doing at the federal level and say, what are the things we're doing that we don't have to do? And those things we've got to stop doing, because we're borrowing $1.6 trillion more this year than we're taking in. We cannot ...

Q: Including disaster relief, though?

Romney: We cannot – we cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids, knowing full well that we'll all be dead and gone before it's paid off. It makes no sense at all.

Talking point for the lefties: Romney thinks FEMA is immoral and he wants to privatize it. Talking point for the righties: Romney would like to ensure that: 1) what's done at the federal level should be done at the federal level; and 2) what's better done by the private sector should be done by the private sector.

Translation: I'm getting sick of this election.

 

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George, you're off your rocker. He said what he said. He wants this stuff to go to the private sector. Just as Mourdock said a baby via rape is God's will.

Twist it all you want, but you are flat wrong and it is not a matter of opinion.

 

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Heck, when he was governor it seems Romney didn't want to help during a natural disaster.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/mitt-romney-mothers-day-floods-2006-14260979?click=news

 

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Are you familiar with the phrase "weasel words"? From the wikipedia:

See if you can find these weasel words in Romney's answer ...

"Every time you have an occasion"
"And if you can go even further"

Being not an absolute idiot at politics, Romney threw those in there right after an "Absolutely"! Some may say that makes him a weasel. I say it simply makes him a politician. I can assure you that President Obama has used weasel words to his advantage many, many times.

 

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No surprise here. Survival of the fittest!

 

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I've never read a hard-left blog. Not Kos, not any of them. I could not even tell you what the names of the blogs are.

Your written statements lack any nuance or room for discussion. They boil down to: Horrible people think great people are horrible people, but they're actually great.

 

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Rasmussen's latest has Romney up 2 points in Ohio.

 

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You must have read the same Politico piece I did. "Nate Silver: one-term celebrity?"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/10/nate-silver-romney-clearly-could-still-win-147618.html

"Nate Silver says this is a 73.6 percent chance that the president is going to win? Nobody in that campaign thinks they have a 73 percent chance — they think they have a 50.1 percent chance of winning. And you talk to the Romney people, it's the same thing," Scarborough said. "Both sides understand that it is close, and it could go either way. And anybody that thinks that this race is anything but a tossup right now is such an ideologue, they should be kept away from typewriters, computers, laptops and microphones for the next 10 days, because they're jokes."

I think Joe Scarborough isn't getting it. But anyway, InTrade is back up to Obama over 60 percent, and since that $1,250 Romney bet that brought it to even was seen as a sea change in the election, I think Republicans would have to agree that based on InTrade it's looking pretty good for Obama right now.

 

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Anyone taking into account the effects of Sandy on (the possible absence of) voters?

 

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Yeah, I think it was in that piece that someone said that he was just "hedging" by giving Romney a 24 percent chance or whatever it is. That's just not his M.O. The pundits are trying to project the pundit model of prediction onto him: Decisiveness is more important than accuracy. Silver, on the other hand, is more concerned with telling us how things truly stack up at a given moment in time.