FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

YankeeFan · Oct 31, 2012

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Double Down said:

If Romney loses -- and it's still not close to a sure thing -- the speed that Republicans eat him alive and blame him is going cause such vicious whiplash, I almost feel bad for him. It's obvious do many of theses guys hate his guts. Fun to take a quick trip down memory lane and remember how they felt about him the last few years.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hRJa2OaiwWw
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DD, if Obama somehow loses, will Dems view him as some kind of valiant hero, who was slain by the dragon, or will he be savaged by his own?

I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

Baron Scicluna · Oct 31, 2012

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BitterYoungMatador2 said:

Smallpotatoes said:

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2012/10/donald-trump-extends-deadline-for-president-obamas-college-and-passport-records.html

Donald Trump extended the deadline on his $5 million offer.
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Good to see this is what's on his mind on the day after his city was decimated. Fucking narcissistic asshole.
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Dear Donald:

If you want to donate $5 million so badly, go ahead and do it already. If anything, if you donated it now to the Red Cross or some other disaster relief organization, it'd make you look like a rich human being who doesn't suck.

Instead, you're still stuck on some ridiculous tenth-rate issue that nobody, especially in your two states, gives a rat's ass about right now. So why don't you do everyone a favor and let the adults like Gov. Christie handle this.

Sincerely,

The Rest of America

LongTimeListener · Oct 31, 2012

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YankeeFan said:

Double Down said:

If Romney loses -- and it's still not close to a sure thing -- the speed that Republicans eat him alive and blame him is going cause such vicious whiplash, I almost feel bad for him. It's obvious do many of theses guys hate his guts. Fun to take a quick trip down memory lane and remember how they felt about him the last few years.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hRJa2OaiwWw
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DD, if Obama somehow loses, will Dems view him as some kind of valiant hero, who was slain by the dragon, or will he be savaged by his own?

I'm pretty sure I know the answer.
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I am confident, certainly more confident than last week, that this will remain a hypothetical. The auto CEOs speaking up about Romney's latest battle with the truth could be a proverbial game-changer, but I think he's on his way anyway.

Double Down · Oct 31, 2012

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YF--

Don't be silly. We'll blame the electorate. After that, we'll blame the cowardly political press, and then probably Jim Messina. The President MIGHT be fourth on that list.

It's ok. I know deep down you loathe Mitt, and you damn sure don't trust him. You just loathe Obama more and trust him even less.

If Romney does get elected, I think it's safe to say everyone will hate him by '16. Just get Jeb Bush warm. We all know it should have been him in 2000 anyway.

Tom Petty · Oct 31, 2012

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Care Bear said:

Sorry, man. I probably should have known better.
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god, you suck.

(see what i did there?)

zagoshe · Oct 31, 2012

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Here is the perfect scenario.....

Barry Hussein Osama wins the Electoral Votes
Shit I'm Wrongney wins the Popular Votes

The Elephants win both houses.

This would ensure that Barry will be ridiculed as the "President Select" and also can't go crazy with his socialist horseshit and the conservative wackos can't tell us all when and where to go to church.....

cranberry · Oct 31, 2012

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Double Down said:

Just get Jeb Bush warm. We all know it should have been him in 2000 anyway.
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Anyone else getting the impression Gov. Christie, based on his effusive Obama praise the last couple days, is beginning to think abou '16?

And here's Dana Milbank's take on Romney lying about Chrysler and GM..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-romneys-jeep-ad-drives-off-the-road-of-truth/2012/10/30/f207c606-22c9-11e2-8448-81b1ce7d6978_story.html

Double Down · Oct 31, 2012

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This whole Jeep thing is an interesting moment for the political press. It's clear that it's always been ok to bend the truth a little in campaigns. You "mislead" and the press mostly smirks and turns it into he said/he said thing. But there is also a line that most candidates stop short of, and Romney appears to have crossed it. I really think its a miscalculation to keep pushing something that is blatantly false. But maybe I'm wrong. It's clear the Romney campaign has decided they might be able to overcome people calling them on this by just blanketing Ohio with ads making shit up. Will it backfire?

hondo · Oct 31, 2012

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LongTimeListener said:

GeorgeFHayek said:

LongTimeListener said:

Then you're unlike a very large portion of your party, George. And much like the abortion debate, that's just a reality you're going to have to square with yourself.
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Let R be that set of the politically inclined populace that would be considered on "the right."
Let r be that subset of R which identifies primarily with the Republican Party.
Let rr be that subset of r which would find racist jokes about President Obama (or anyone of African descent) to be funny.

It is reasonable to assume that rr is, regrettably, not a null set. By the arithmetic implied by your first post, however, rr = R.

And you're telling me I have some squaring with reality to do?
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I am telling you this: The Tea Party is in control of the GOP. The Tea Party is the birthers. So if that's your side and you're not repulsed enough to get away from that kind of hate, don't get upset that you get lumped in with it.
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Just because "you're telling us this" doesn't make it true. I know a few people who go to Tea Party rallies. They're not birthers. They tell me the vast majority of Tea Partiers are not birthers. They just think the prez has done a horseshit job. But you'll find one birther sign at some Tea Party rally in Murfreesboro and think it means they're all birthers. You're falling into just as much a conspiracy theory as the birthers are.

Bubbler · Oct 31, 2012

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hondo said:

LongTimeListener said:

GeorgeFHayek said:

LongTimeListener said:

Then you're unlike a very large portion of your party, George. And much like the abortion debate, that's just a reality you're going to have to square with yourself.
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Let R be that set of the politically inclined populace that would be considered on "the right."
Let r be that subset of R which identifies primarily with the Republican Party.
Let rr be that subset of r which would find racist jokes about President Obama (or anyone of African descent) to be funny.

It is reasonable to assume that rr is, regrettably, not a null set. By the arithmetic implied by your first post, however, rr = R.

And you're telling me I have some squaring with reality to do?
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I am telling you this: The Tea Party is in control of the GOP. The Tea Party is the birthers. So if that's your side and you're not repulsed enough to get away from that kind of hate, don't get upset that you get lumped in with it.
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Just because "you're telling us this" doesn't make it true. I know a few people who go to Tea Party rallies. They're not birthers. They tell me the vast majority of Tea Partiers are not birthers. They just think the prez has done a horseshit job. But you'll find one birther sign at some Tea Party rally in Murfreesboro and think it means they're all birthers. You're falling into just as much a conspiracy theory as the birthers are.
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The vast majority of Tea Partiers were predisposed to think Obama did a shitty job the minute he got elected.

hondo · Oct 31, 2012

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Bubbler said:

hondo said:

LongTimeListener said:

GeorgeFHayek said:

LongTimeListener said:

Then you're unlike a very large portion of your party, George. And much like the abortion debate, that's just a reality you're going to have to square with yourself.
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Let R be that set of the politically inclined populace that would be considered on "the right."
Let r be that subset of R which identifies primarily with the Republican Party.
Let rr be that subset of r which would find racist jokes about President Obama (or anyone of African descent) to be funny.

It is reasonable to assume that rr is, regrettably, not a null set. By the arithmetic implied by your first post, however, rr = R.

And you're telling me I have some squaring with reality to do?
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I am telling you this: The Tea Party is in control of the GOP. The Tea Party is the birthers. So if that's your side and you're not repulsed enough to get away from that kind of hate, don't get upset that you get lumped in with it.
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Just because "you're telling us this" doesn't make it true. I know a few people who go to Tea Party rallies. They're not birthers. They tell me the vast majority of Tea Partiers are not birthers. They just think the prez has done a horseshit job. But you'll find one birther sign at some Tea Party rally in Murfreesboro and think it means they're all birthers. You're falling into just as much a conspiracy theory as the birthers are.
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The vast majority of Tea Partiers were predisposed to think Obama did a shitty job the minute he got elected.
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Now that I will grant you. But he went ahead and fulfilled their wishes.

zagoshe · Oct 31, 2012

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Bubbler said:

The vast majority of Tea Partiers were predisposed to think Obama did a shitty job the minute he got elected.
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And just because they are one step away from the lunatic fringe - that doesn't make them wrong on that point, though it was probably closer to an hour after he took office before he began to show us all what a fucking idiot he is.

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