FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Tom Petty · Oct 31, 2012

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YankeeFan said:

Tom Petty said:

ya know, YF, you and i don't see eye-to-eye on anything political, but we still treat each other with respect.
but please, don't tell me how to post. i have more than a few posts and years under my belt at this site, and i understand how it works rather well.
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I do respect you Tom, but your posts are beneath you.

If you believe someone to be a pig, why roll around in the mud with him?
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meh, you've never read my facebook wall. ; P

Starman · Oct 31, 2012

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GeorgeFHayek said:

Is there any chance that "all conceivable" could be translated as "all politically acceptable"? Meaning, all those willing to do the financing/reorganization the way the Administration wants?
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That is, without totally slaughtering the UAW and all its retirees?

Which of course is the "managed bankruptcy" Mitt & Co. wanted.

YankeeFan · Oct 31, 2012

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PEW:

Just as the presidential race is deadlocked in the campaign’s final days, the candidates are also running about even when it comes to the ground game. Voters nationally, as well those in the closely contested battleground states, report being contacted at about the same rates by each of the campaigns. And with a fifth of likely voters reporting already having cast their ballots, neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney has a clear advantage among early voters. This is in sharp contrast to early voting at this point four years ago, which favored Obama by a wide margin.

http://www.people-press.org/2012/10/31/in-deadlocked-race-neither-side-has-ground-game-advantage/
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cranberry · Oct 31, 2012

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GeorgeFHayek said:

cranberry said:

Romney's campaign is getting destroyed this week because of his right wing-pandering positions on FEMA and the auto industry bailout... Couldn't be happier that the auto industry gets to put the finals in this campaign's coffin.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/opinion/mitt-romney-versus-the-automakers.html

When General Motors tells a presidential campaign that it is engaging in “cynical campaign politics at its worst,” that’s a pretty good signal that the campaign has crossed a red line and ought to pull back. Not Mitt Romney’s campaign. Having broadcast an outrageously deceitful ad attacking the auto bailout, the campaign ignored the howls from carmakers and came back with more.

Mr. Romney apparently plans to end his race as he began it: playing lowest-common-denominator politics, saying anything necessary to achieve power and blithely deceiving voters desperate for clarity and truth.
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And here's the noted socialist Steve Ratner from his February op-ed piece for those who continue to insist that there was private equity in the tens of billions available in January '09:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/24/opinion/delusions-about-the-detroit-bailout.html

As a presidential aspirant, Mr. Romney evidently hasn’t felt a need to be consistent or specific as to what should have been done to address the collapse of the auto industry starting in late 2008. But the gist is that the government should have stayed on the sidelines and allowed the companies to go through what he calls “managed bankruptcies,” financed by private capital.

That sounds like a wonderfully sensible approach — except that it’s utter fantasy. In late 2008 and early 2009, when G.M. and Chrysler had exhausted their liquidity, every scrap of private capital had fled to the sidelines.

I know this because the administration’s auto task force, for which I was the lead adviser, spoke diligently to all conceivable providers of funds, and not one had the slightest interest in financing those companies on any terms. If Mr. Romney disagrees, he should come forward with specific names of willing investors in place of empty rhetoric. I predict that he won’t be able to, because there aren’t any.
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Is there any chance that "all conceivable" could be translated as "all politically acceptable"? Meaning, all those willing to do the financing/reorganization the way the Administration wants?
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No.

If someone doubted Ratner, they should have called him on it at the time -- back in January '09. Nobody stepped up. Ever. To this day. Romney himself has had four years to go into whatever level of detail necessary to explain where exactly these tens of billions of dollars in private financing were available. Crickets.

So here we are entering the final weekend of the campaign. Romney trying to find something, anything, even if he has to lie, to denigrate the auto industry. They're sending jobs to China! We'd have been better off not saving the industry. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Problem is, people in Ohio know better. They know what it was like before the bailout. They know what it's like now.

waterytart · Oct 31, 2012

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Cran, can you prove that unicorns don't exist?

Captain Obvious · Oct 31, 2012

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YankeeFan said:

Captain Obvious said:

Tarheel316 said:

YankeeFan said:

Captain Obvious said:

When did you stop touching little boys?
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Disgraceful. Even for a sock puppet.
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Definitely. Uncalled for.
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It's also disgraceful to try to get another poster fired.
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You are a fucking asshole.

First of all, regardless of what anyone did in the past, your comment is disgraceful, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Secondly, you're a cowardly sock puppet, who takes advantage of a "no rules" thread to make disgusting and/or personal comments without even owning up to your anonymous handle and posting history.

Thirdly, I don't know how you could suppose to know who sent an anonymous email to someone's employer. Absent any facts, you choose to believe Tony the guilty party because others have decided it to be so.

Anyone who gives you an ounce of respect is giving you an once more than you deserve.
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I haven't called old_tony's boss and say he likes to touch young boys, so at least I'm above that. Anyway, if you think I'm looking for respect, I need to change my name to Captain Oblivious in your honor.

Go back to your GOP wankfest and stop being a pussy about the "no rules" in effect.

cranberry · Oct 31, 2012

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waterytart said:

Cran, can you prove that unicorns don't exist?
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Saw one tonight, actually, walking down the street next to two witches, a zombie and Scooby Doo.

YankeeFan · Oct 31, 2012

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Captain Obvious said:

I haven't called old_tony's boss and say he likes to touch young boys, so at least I'm above that. Anyway, if you think I'm looking for respect, I need to change my name to Captain Oblivious in your honor.

Go back to your GOP wankfest and stop being a pussy about the "no rules" in effect.
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"Pussy".

Enlightened adults moved beyond using a vulgar term for the vagina as a putdown years ago.

You might as well call me a "fag" or a "homo".

zagoshe · Oct 31, 2012

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FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCK

zagoshe · Oct 31, 2012

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YankeeFan said:

Captain Obvious said:

I haven't called old_tony's boss and say he likes to touch young boys, so at least I'm above that. Anyway, if you think I'm looking for respect, I need to change my name to Captain Oblivious in your honor.

Go back to your GOP wankfest and stop being a pussy about the "no rules" in effect.
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"Pussy".

Enlightened adults moved beyond using a vulgar term for the vagina as a putdown years ago.

You might as well call me a "fag" or a "homo".
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Some of ya'all are fucked up

sportbook · Oct 31, 2012

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YankeeFan said:

PEW:

Just as the presidential race is deadlocked in the campaign’s final days, the candidates are also running about even when it comes to the ground game. Voters nationally, as well those in the closely contested battleground states, report being contacted at about the same rates by each of the campaigns. And with a fifth of likely voters reporting already having cast their ballots, neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney has a clear advantage among early voters. This is in sharp contrast to early voting at this point four years ago, which favored Obama by a wide margin.

http://www.people-press.org/2012/10/31/in-deadlocked-race-neither-side-has-ground-game-advantage/
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This is strange because it says early voting is tied yet the graphic has Romney with a seven-point early voting advantage.

zagoshe · Oct 31, 2012

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You know what is great about this thread ---

We are allowed to say shit, piss, fuck, c-nt, cocksucker, motherfucker and pussy and pig vomit won't scream at us!!!!!

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