FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

zagoshe · Nov 1, 2012

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Captain Obvious said:

zagoshe said:

And I'll say this as well --

The fact that Obama has had to go 100 percent negative and attack Mitt Romney with the same old "he is a rich guy who will hook up his cronies and make women use coat hangers" nonsense throughout this campaign speaks volumes about how ineffective his first term really was.

I mean, this is Mitt freaking Romney who is one weakest candidates we have ever seen he is struggling to beat.

If Obama had just a few positive things to discuss and make the center of his campaign he could basically ignore Romney and run away with the victory.

Sort of like Bill Clinton in 1996 - do you remember his campaign? It was tremendously positive - talked about all the things his first term accomplished (even if he didn't deserve all the credit for some of it and some of it was bullshit), talked about all the ways America was moving in the right direction and he barely took swipes at Bob Dole because he didn't need to.

All I see - and I am in a battleground state - are commercials about what an evil man Mitt Romney is and how he is going to ruin the environment and cut taxes for his buddies and kick all the old ladies off of medicare.

Seriously, Obama has nothing to sell, nothing at all other than class warfare and the same old left-wing bullshit about how he's for the small people and his opponent is for the rich.

And this is a stark contrast to what he ran on in 2008, when he ran on a ticket of optimism and hope and a new direction for America and ran as a politician of change, a new kind of politician, a guy who got things done.

And even the most far away gone Kool Aid drinking liberal who is honest with himself can't deny this.
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The correct term is Flavor Aid. Stop the over-the-top bullshit and work on a reel argument.

If you're for the out-of-touch race baiters, go ahead and vote against your interests.
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Yes, because black folks who have been going like sheep to the polls and voting Democratic for the past 50 years have benefited so greatly from this and this has greatly improved their lot in this country and their communities are so much better off.... :

GeorgeFHayek · Nov 1, 2012

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dooley_womack1 said:

GeorgeFHayek said:

Ben_Hecht said:

This morning's latest serving of senile drool out of George Will was the whelp of a beaten cur.
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If you want to annoy a liberal, tell him the truth ...
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old_tony called. He said to stop working his corners.
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Nah ... we righties sign an agreement that automatically confers proxy rights.

Tarheel316 · Nov 1, 2012

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Zag, the empty-headed, clueless dumb ass in this race is Paul Ryan.

Drip · Nov 1, 2012

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zagoshe said:

Captain Obvious said:

zagoshe said:

Drip said:

Can someone give me a GOOD REASON WHY I should vote for Mitt Romney aside from the fact that the other guy hasn't done everything that he's promised but has been stymied at every opportunity to set his policy in action?
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Can you give me a good reason why Obama deserves one more day in office much less four more years, well, other than the other guy is rich?

I mean seriously if you are honest with yourself the guy has been a disaster as a president - and listening to his campaign he is utterly clueless and has no idea how to fix what ails us - other than "hey let's keep spending and handing out goodies and make the rich people pay more taxes"
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THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY!!! PLUS, HE'S BLACK.
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I would have to go through the list to determine that but he is definitely somewhere in the bottom five.

And yes, he is black, but what the hell does that have to do with anything?
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If anyone that that Obama could change in three and a half years what it took George Bush to fuck up in eight, they must be smoking crack. This country was fucked up when Obama took over. It's going to take time but this bullshit about "taking America back" back where? Back to when a white man was the leader of the free world? Back to when "darkies knew their place?" Back to the 1700's? 1800's? Obama may not have all the answers but the rhetoric spewing from Herman Munster and Little Eddie Munster is very scary.
And as for being the worst president ever, that honor still goes to his predecessor.

Captain Obvious · Nov 1, 2012

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zagoshe said:

cranberry said:

zagoshe said:

And I'll say this as well --

The fact that Obama has had to go 100 percent negative and attack Mitt Romney with the same old "he is a rich guy who will hook up his cronies and make women use coat hangers" nonsense throughout this campaign speaks volumes about how ineffective his first term really was.
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We haven't seen that ad here.

And we won't. And that ad is the only one I've seen - and the only time I've heard - Obama try to talk about what has been accomplished.

And my favorite part of it is this -

Here is my plan

"We're going to invest in Education"
"Invest in Manufacturing"
"Invest in American Energy"
"Reduce the Deficit"

What the fuck does any of that mean? How are you going to do this? And what steps have you already taken to do this?

My God, this is the most empty-headed, clueless, dumb ass we have ever elected and that is saying something considering the last guy who held the office.
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Doesn't Romney say the same thing, clown?

Greenhorn · Nov 1, 2012

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Carl Bernstein weighs in on Romney today:

"the campaign's bedrock opposition to abortion and gay rights, its unrelenting anti-immigration stance, regressive philosophy of taxation, and promotion of religious ideas as government policy, reflect the substantive part of the GOP's reigning radicalism. And then there are its tactical aspects: insinuating that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and thus illegitimately holds the office of president, changing voting rules to make it more difficult for poorer Americans to vote, flattering and encouraging (rather than shaming) those Americans who proudly reject the findings and methods of science, driving from office and purging such traditional conservatives and moderates..."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/01/carl-bernstein-on-mitt-romney-s-radicalism.html

Norrin Radd · Nov 1, 2012

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zagoshe said:

Captain Obvious said:

zagoshe said:

Drip said:

Can someone give me a GOOD REASON WHY I should vote for Mitt Romney aside from the fact that the other guy hasn't done everything that he's promised but has been stymied at every opportunity to set his policy in action?
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Can you give me a good reason why Obama deserves one more day in office much less four more years, well, other than the other guy is rich?

I mean seriously if you are honest with yourself the guy has been a disaster as a president - and listening to his campaign he is utterly clueless and has no idea how to fix what ails us - other than "hey let's keep spending and handing out goodies and make the rich people pay more taxes"
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THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY!!! PLUS, HE'S BLACK.
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I would have to go through the list to determine that but he is definitely somewhere in the bottom five.

And yes, he is black, but what the hell does that have to do with anything?
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No Republican ever voted against the Democrats before.

Therefore, this time and in 2008 . . . well, you know.

Beaker · Nov 1, 2012

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Poor Mitt:

DES MOINES (The Borowitz Report)—A new Mitt Romney is emerging in the closing days of the campaign, aides say: a man who is increasingly “being eaten alive with jealousy” by President Obama’s budding relationship with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

While Mr. Romney has told reporters that he is “totally fine” with Gov. Christie flying around in a helicopter with President Obama, privately he has told aides, “Seeing him with Chris Christie is tearing me apart.”

The trouble began earlier this week, a Romney aide said, when Mr. Romney saw Mr. Christie on CNN mention that President Obama “had given him his number at the White House.”

“Mitt was like, ‘Fine, whatever, do we have to watch this?’ and then basically ran out of the room,” the aide said. “It was completely awkward.”

Making matters worse, the aide said, “Chris Christie isn’t returning his calls.”

“Mitt was trying to explain his position on FEMA to reporters yesterday and he got all excited because his phone started vibrating,” the aide said. “It turned out it was just Ann.”

Mr. Romney, who has been seen doodling Chris Christie’s name in the margins of his briefing books in recent days, has apparently decided on a new course of action: to make the New Jersey governor jealous.

“He’s been calling [New York Governor Andrew] Cuomo,” the aide said. “But Cuomo won’t call him back either. It’s all so sad."
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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/11/romney-seeing-him-with-chris-christie-is-tearing-me-apart.html

GeorgeFHayek · Nov 1, 2012

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Drip said:

And as for being the worst president ever, that honor still goes to his predecessor.
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I don't see how any thinking person could come to that conclusion. History may ultimately judge GWB's presidency that way, but I strongly doubt it. The bar for worst is set too high (or low, if you will).

Greenhorn · Nov 1, 2012

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The bottom five of the rankings of president (in no particular order):

Harding
Andrew Johnson
Buchanan
Pierce
Tyler

Barack Obama is nowhere near as bad as these clowns. To believe otherwise is just more of the vile delusion that has gripped so much of nation since January 2009.

zagoshe · Nov 1, 2012

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Captain Obvious said:

zagoshe said:

cranberry said:

zagoshe said:

And I'll say this as well --

The fact that Obama has had to go 100 percent negative and attack Mitt Romney with the same old "he is a rich guy who will hook up his cronies and make women use coat hangers" nonsense throughout this campaign speaks volumes about how ineffective his first term really was.
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We haven't seen that ad here.

And we won't. And that ad is the only one I've seen - and the only time I've heard - Obama try to talk about what has been accomplished.

And my favorite part of it is this -

Here is my plan

"We're going to invest in Education"
"Invest in Manufacturing"
"Invest in American Energy"
"Reduce the Deficit"

What the fuck does any of that mean? How are you going to do this? And what steps have you already taken to do this?

My God, this is the most empty-headed, clueless, dumb ass we have ever elected and that is saying something considering the last guy who held the office.
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Doesn't Romney say the same thing, clown?
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(A) I am not voting for Romney you Kool Aid drinking Fucktard so come up with a better reply.
(B) Romney DOESN'T HAVE A FUCKING RECORD TO RUN ON and thus needs to throw this bullshit out there FUCKTARD
(C) Obama DOES HAVE A FUCKING RECORD TO RUN ON but IT SUCKS DONKEY DICK which is why he is reduced to negative campaigning and these cheesy generalities, FUCKTARD.

Do you get it now, FUCKTARD?

Tarheel316 · Nov 1, 2012

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Oh yes, poor Mitt. Break out the violins.

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