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FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Sep 21, 2012.

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  1. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

    Good piece from Browstien, still one of the best reporters in the country, on why Ohio still makes Dems nervous.

    http://mobile.nationaljournal.com/magazine/in-a-twist-obama-the-democrat-is-depending-on-ohio-20121101
     
  2. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

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    That's just not true. Bringing the capital gains tax to the same level as the top bracket of a progressive -- not flat -- income tax would serve to cut the deficit and restore the buying power of a tapped out middle class and accelerate growth.

    This idea that we can further cut taxes for the wealthy and grow our way out of the deficit without producing any new revenue is a fallacy and we have 30 years' worth of experience to demonstrate that point.
     
  3. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

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    The new, "special" breed personified by Skinhead Scott is busy bringing clogging of the voting arteries to new levels.
     
  4. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

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    Don't hold your breath.
     
  5. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

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    Vote fraud was on full display on the floor of the Democrat National Convention when a required 2/3 voice vote was deemed to have passed when it could be argued it didn't even make 50%.
     
  6. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

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    Closest thing to a cointoss state as I type this is Colorado.

    You'all can work out the rest.
     
  7. Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

    Since you like the truth, how about the Romney camp not seating elected Ron Paul delegates? At least be honest, you disingenuous hack.

    Party of liberty, my ass, unless you want to have the liberty to be a closet homosexual while painting yourself as a Christian Conservative fighting for good ol' traditional values.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    Hey Cap, what's with all the edits?

    Too tough to get your thoughts together on the first try?
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    Before there was Nate Silver, there was Michael Barone:

    Fundamentals usually prevail in American elections. That's bad news for Barack Obama. True, Americans want to think well of their presidents and many think it would be bad if Americans were perceived as rejecting the first black president.

    But it's also true that most voters oppose Obama's major policies and consider unsatisfactory the very sluggish economic recovery -- Friday's jobs report showed an unemployment uptick.

    Also, both national and target state polls show that independents, voters who don't identify themselves as Democrats or Republicans, break for Romney.

    That might not matter if Democrats outnumbered Republicans by 39 to 32 percent, as they did in the 2008 exit poll. But just about every indicator suggests that Republicans are more enthusiastic about voting -- and about their candidate -- than they were in 2008, and Democrats are less so.

    That's been apparent in early or absentee voting, in which Democrats trail their 2008 numbers in target states Virginia, Ohio, Iowa and Nevada.

    The Obama campaign strategy, from the beginning, has recognized these handicaps, running barrages of early anti-Romney ads in states that Obama carried narrowly. But other states, not so heavily barraged, have come into contention.

    Which candidate will get the electoral votes of the target states? I'll go out on a limb and predict them, in ascending order of 2008 Obama percentages -- fully aware that I'm likely to get some wrong.

    ...

    Bottom line: Romney 315, Obama 223. That sounds high for Romney. But he could drop Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and still win the election. Fundamentals.

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/barone-going-out-on-a-limb-romney-wins-handily/article/2512470#.UJVhxoXgJQI
     
  10. X-Hack

    X-Hack Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps Mr. Barone has an ulterior motive behind his "prediction":

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/the-pre-delegitimization-watch-it-begins/264493/
     
  11. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

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    Cap's next thought will be his first ever.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

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    Thankfully, it's already been decided that Obama, FEMA, Christie, Cuomo, Bloomberk, et al. have done a great job:

     
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