FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Azrael · Nov 5, 2012

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Same was largely true in Wisconsin, but progressives were a faction of the Republican party under Fighting Bob La Follette.

Azrael · Nov 5, 2012

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Boom_70 said:

500 hundred retired Admirals and Generals personally paid for an ad in the Washington Times today endorsing Romney.

Some pretty big names listed including Tommy Franks.

http://media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2012/11/05/ad.pdf
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Couldn't be that they all work for defense contractors these days, could it?

www.nytimes.com/2012/11/05/opinion/the-permanent-militarization-of-america.html?pagewanted=1&hp

trifectarich · Nov 5, 2012

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I don't care who wins as long as someone finally does something for the common good of the country. It's not like there's a shortage of problems to fix.

dixiehack · Nov 5, 2012

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trifectarich said:

I don't care who wins as long as someone finally does something for the common good of the country. It's not like there's a shortage of problems to fix.
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Damn. Not even Election Day and you've already lost.

Bob Cook · Nov 5, 2012

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GeorgeFHayek said:

Azrael said:

Boom_70 said:

500 hundred retired Admirals and Generals personally paid for an ad in the Washington Times today endorsing Romney.

Some pretty big names listed including Tommy Franks.

http://media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2012/11/05/ad.pdf
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Speaking of Franks, great article from the Atlantic here about the institutionalization of mediocrity at the top of our military.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/11/general-failure/309148/
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Another good piece along the same lines, but this time as regards the military academies:

http://chronicle.com/article/The-Few-the-Proud-the/134830/
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Wow, thanks for posting this. My son is in his high school's Navy ROTC, and plans to do ROTC (probably an Army program) in college. He's talked a little bit about interest in West Point, but he has no plans to be a career officer, so I'm not sure his going there would be a good idea. This article helps make the case.

Now back to politics: Yours suck. Mine are great. Repeat.

exmediahack · Nov 5, 2012

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Captain Obvious said:

Boom_70 said:

Amy had a post on Politics poll thread mentioning that Minnesota has always had liberal roots. It's something I've always wondered about because it seems like such an outlier from most of the Midwest. So as not to sully up the poll thread I am moving the discussion here.
Exmedia had an interesting take:

exmediahack said:

I am not Amy but I covered Minnesota politics for many years.

Scandinavian heritage. To paraphrase Reggie White, they could turn a salesman into a socialist.

Scandinavian nations tend to be socialist models and I think that mindset plays out in Minnesota. Very few social conservatives in the state plus I think the weather plays a factor. In Minnesota, everyone needs heat in the winter and a car that starts on a day where it is -22 outside. I found that Minnesotans keep to themselves but also recognize the need to try and provide the basics to all. (Not trying to make a judgment here... Just what I saw from living there).

Even in the new money suburbs of Minneapolis/St. Paul, you still see lots of DFL signs.
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Very few social conservatives? I think it's just the opposite.
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Compared with other Midwest states, yes. A social conservative cannot run and win for Governor or Senate. (Pawlenty was fairly centrist in his campaign).

YankeeFan · Nov 5, 2012

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Bob Cook said:

Wow, thanks for posting this. My son is in his high school's Navy ROTC, and plans to do ROTC (probably an Army program) in college. He's talked a little bit about interest in West Point, but he has no plans to be a career officer, so I'm not sure his going there would be a good idea. This article helps make the case.

Now back to politics: Yours suck. Mine are great. Repeat.
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Bob's raising a future Republican!

BitterYoungMatador2 · Nov 5, 2012

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hondo said:

3OctaveFart said:

If Obama wins I will not post here ever again.
I'd like a few of my tormentors to put their small nuts on the table and make the same claim if Romney wins.
What say you, pussy lips, and you, mental patient?
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Why the hell would we do that? Why would you do that? Are you so emotionally fragile that if your candidate doesn't win, you'd disappear?
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You're asking for logic from a person who has named themself "3OctaveFart?"

YankeeFan · Nov 5, 2012

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exmediahack said:

Compared with other Midwest states, yes. A social conservative cannot run and win for Governor or Senate. (Pawlenty was fairly centrist in his campaign).
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Any thoughts about Pawlenty as VP? Could he have made a difference in Minnesota?

I kind of doubt it, but it also doesn't look like Ryan is going to make the difference in Wisconsin, so it makes you wonder about other possible choices.

YankeeFan · Nov 5, 2012

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So, when does this thread get cut off? When the polls close; when the networks call it; when the SCOTUS issues it's ruling, deciding the election?

Should we congratulate ourselves now for a mostly fun, if somewhat raucous, thread?

exmediahack · Nov 5, 2012

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Wisconsin has more German/Polish ancestry and they tend to be less liberal, economically. Yet Wisconsin also has very distinct political hue, depending on the area.
Republican: Milwaukee suburbs, Green Bay/Appleton, southwest corner of state.
Democratic: Milwaukee city, Madison, southeast of Madison (Paul Ryan's district, oddly enough), far northern Wisconsin.

The areas close to Minnesota also tend to vote like Minnesota. Fairly left-leaning from Superior to La Crosse, with the exception of the MSP suburbs in Wisconsin, which are very Republican.

RickStain · Nov 5, 2012

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YankeeFan said:

So, when does this thread get cut off? When the polls close; when the networks call it; when the SCOTUS issues it's ruling, deciding the election?

Should we congratulate ourselves now for a mostly fun, if somewhat raucous, thread?
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Technically it's the politics thread and not the election thread. Maybe it's gone so well that we'll get to keep it?

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