FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

I hope as much for Nate Silver's public humiliation as I do for a Romney victory celebration......

 

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Not sure about 'beloved', but he did predict the Republican wave in 2010 pretty well: http://www.pacificnorthwestcoastbias.com/grading-nate-silvers-election-predictions/

I don't think it behooves him to have his thumb on the scale either way.

 

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No way in hell. Grudgingly respected at best, and even that's iffy.

Regardless of how accurate he is, there would be a lot of teeth gnashing (see any poll that doesn't go "your" way) and rumblings about how Silver is causing the losing side to just give up and not even participate --- thus, Silver would be in a perverse way blamed for generating the results his polls show.

I can't, either. But have you seen the fans' reaction when the local beat writer or columnist picks against their team? Stupid, yes. But human nature is pretty stupid sometimes.

 

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To my fellow blue staters, we need to get out the vote in the blue states. We do not want Obama losing the popular vote. 4 years of that noise? No thanks.

 

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What he said.

It's the same reason that guys like Charles Pierce or Mark Bowden or Chris Jones are beloved.

A sports guy going straight and succeeding.

 

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Where is the "Like" button?

 

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Also: You can't stand up for Warren Buffett when Republicans say he's a hypocrite for not paying more taxes out of the goodness of his heart, then criticize Mitt Romney for essentially doing the same things as Warren Buffett.

 

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Complaining about Nate Silver, unicorn dreams that undecideds will all flock to Romney.

Yeah, this one's just about over. Congrats on the second term, President Obama.

 

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Perhaps. But an incumbent party getting a mid-term ass kicking is about as reliable as the phases of the moon.

The past 20 midterm House elections have seen the following gains/losses for the incumbent party:

+9, -71, -55, -45, -29, -18, -48, -4, -47, -12, -48, -15, -26, -5, -8, -52, +5, +8, -30, -63.

 

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Wrong, fool.

 

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Buffett is saying "take these loopholes away from me and make my taxes higher." Romney is saying "keep these loopholes for me and make my taxes lower."

Side note on Buffett: His business partner Charlie Munger has two kids who are throwing his billions around hoping to influence California's proposition politics. One is conservative, one is liberal, but both are as petulant and foot-stomping spoiled as you'd expect a multibillionaire's kids to be.

 

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Where in the founding literature of this country is "self-interest" promoted as a means or an end?

"Self-interest" may or may not be a bedrock principle of capitalism or a market economy, but the "common good" would seem to me a basic premise of democratic government.