FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Re: THE 2012 POLITICS THREAD

No, I don't think they should.

It's a defining characteristic of the American system. The US is probably one of the most democratic countries in the world. They vote for legislators, executive officers, sheriffs, marshalls, police officers, judges, prosecutors. However, that democracy was designed to be local and federal. States were supposed to be more democratic than the federal government, but also, more powerful.

This system maintained relative internal stability for a long time. Especially after the problems that came with the Civil War were solved. Replacing the federal government with a directly elected presidency will only increase the chances of a populist government getting to power, and the US will basically become what most (if not all) of Latin America has been for the past century...

 

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Well, they usually give to both sides, often favoring incumbents.

 

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Not really related to your post - but I wish we'd stop voting for judges and prosecutors.

 

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Well, since three elections ago, anyway.

The template was set with what they did to McCain in South Carolina in 2004. It's a lot like how the Southern Baptist Convention became so deeply conservative: the right wing doesn't bargain with moderates, who don't end up having the will to stem the power play. But the GOP better find some folks like that, who'll sack up.

And 3Octavefart tags out.

 

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Nothing to do with presidential politics, or even an election tomorrow ... but Newark mayor Cory Booker credited with possibly the greatest Tweet ever.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/11/05/cory-booker-twitter/

 

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Some fun Silver scenario percentages:

5.4% Romney wins the popular vote but loses the election
6% chance of a recount, where a decisive state is within 0.5%
0.1% chance of the map looking identical to 2008

 

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Unions do give to both sides, but the vast majority goes to Democrats.

 

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Fooley, you'll see a poster who can keep his word if that comes to pass.
You will see some integrity from the right.
Will you tap out if Romney wins?
Or at least promise to stop telling horrible jokes?

 

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Go look. I have been told by some of my conservative buddies how the left extreme was seeing this. ... how Obama would usher in a new era of blue for some time to come. It may very well end tomorrow night with Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida.

The Redskins have sealed it anyway.


Also I went and did the Fox News predict your own outcome, and played with it a little. It is possible for a candidate, though not happening here this year, to win the election carrying as few as 11 states.

 

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Unions tell members who to vote for.

 

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Sure. In 1960. Nowadays, it's the employers.

 

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Unions tell their members who they WANT them to vote for. Employers imply the employees will be fired if they don't vote for who they are told to vote for.