FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

LongTimeListener · Oct 3, 2012

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Just saw the clip where Romney cites the $716 million figure for Obama cutting Medicare. This is a lie. It isn't a different interpretation, it isn't a half-truth, it isn't anything that can be couched. It is a lie. And the Romney campaign has been told publicly that it's a lie and they really haven't mounted any defense to the charge that it's a lie.

So I guess it's winning to get more people to like you more than they did before the thing started, but it's a lie. A lie. And it needs to be called such.

Stoney · Oct 3, 2012

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Chris Matthews looks like his dog just died, meanwhile Hannity is beyond giddy. Guess that might be an indicator of who won.

GoochMan · Oct 3, 2012

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Armchair_QB said:

LongTimeListener said:

RickStain said:

The consensus seems to be crystallizing that Obama was bad and Romney was good. They both just looked okayish to me.
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I am flying blind here and I will take the board experts' word for it to some degree, but I have been predicting for a week that this is how the narrative would go because everyone has such a massive self-interest (ratings) in making people believe the race is going down to the wire.
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I didn't see it tonight but people are comparing it to the first Bush-Kerry debate when Bush looked like he was ready to go to bed and Kerry looked polished and ready to roll.
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Agreed pretty much. Style matters in the 'winning and losing' of these things. Romney had the energy.
They're gonna have to let Obama go after him a little bit. That is what gets Romney more flustered.

Hokie_pokie · Oct 3, 2012

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Starman said:

Apparently Obama thinks he can't say, "you are lying" because then he will be attacked for being an "angry black man."

Kumbayah, kumbyah.
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Is Obama even physically capable of anger?

I understand you don't want the leader of the free world flying off into a white-hot rage at the drop of a hat.

But for fuck's sake, even if you know these debates are a joke, at least act like you give half a shit.

He's just so ... cold.

I think even if Romney had walked over and punched him in the face, Obama would've just stammered and said, "Well, uh, you know, Mitt, that was uncalled for."

Pathetically pussified does not inspire confidence.

YankeeFan · Oct 3, 2012

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Nancy Cordes ‏@nancycordes

CBS News instapoll: 46% said Romney won. 22% said Obama won. 32% said tie. Decisive win for Romney.

Magic In The Night · Oct 3, 2012

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LongTimeListener said:

Just saw the clip where Romney cites the $716 million figure for Obama cutting Medicare. This is a lie. It isn't a different interpretation, it isn't a half-truth, it isn't anything that can be couched. It is a lie. And the Romney campaign has been told publicly that it's a lie and they really haven't mounted any defense to the charge that it's a lie.

So I guess it's winning to get more people to like you more than they did before the thing started, but it's a lie. A lie. And it needs to be called such.
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Lying works. Especially in politics.

TheSportsPredictor · Oct 3, 2012

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47% say Obama will still win the election.

Stoney · Oct 3, 2012

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Magic In The Night said:

LongTimeListener said:

Just saw the clip where Romney cites the $716 million figure for Obama cutting Medicare. This is a lie. It isn't a different interpretation, it isn't a half-truth, it isn't anything that can be couched. It is a lie. And the Romney campaign has been told publicly that it's a lie and they really haven't mounted any defense to the charge that it's a lie.

So I guess it's winning to get more people to like you more than they did before the thing started, but it's a lie. A lie. And it needs to be called such.
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Lying works. Especially in politics.
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Not if the other side calls you out and exposes the lies. But tonight's Obama wouldn't dare do that. Hopefully we'll see a different version next time.

YankeeFan · Oct 3, 2012

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Here's Matthews:

http://elections.reuters.com/liveblog#page/last/post/49138808

Double Down · Oct 3, 2012

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dixiehack said:

Romney won. That will get him two days of good coverage and then a toddler in Oregon will land a jet on YouTube or something. Welcome to ADD America.
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1. First!

2. Shit luks fake.

3. Obama is worse than Hitler.

4. Do you want to see the kayne/kim sex tape? Click here.

5. That kid pwns!

dooley_womack1 · Oct 3, 2012

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6. Soul-Stealing Bowl II: Gingers vs. Basement Cats

Stoney · Oct 3, 2012

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YankeeFan said:

Here's Matthews:

http://elections.reuters.com/liveblog#page/last/post/49138808
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Can't disagree with any of that. Well said, Chris.

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