FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

RickStain · Oct 4, 2012

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Romney's facing 2nd and long from Obama's 53-yard line with 4 minutes to go, trailing by a touchdown and a rouge. He needs to convert here because another 2-and-out isn't an option.

Meatie Pie · Oct 4, 2012

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2012/oct/04/big-bird-mitt-romney-pbs

Like the BBC, it does receive public funding – but there the similarities end. Only 15% of its budget is subsidised by the government; the rest is raised through private donors. In fact, the funding it receives – $444m (£276m) – is so small compared with the rest of the US budget that it makes you wonder why Romney thinks it'll pay for his proposed tax cuts.

PBS is a much less centralised operation than the BBC, too. Its programmes aren't broadcast centrally, but via 354 local affiliates. And though the chairman of the BBC Trust is chosen, at least indirectly, by government ministers, the PBS hierarchy is fairly independent.

Most significantly, while polls do suggest PBS is America's most trusted institution, the American right is even more suspicious of PBS than British rightwingers are of the BBC. "A lot of Republicans think that even things like Sesame Street have a liberal bias," says Sarah Lyall, London correspondent for the New York Times.
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Azrael · Oct 4, 2012

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old_tony said:

Now if you only understood what promotes growth here in the 21st Century.
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Which is what, exactly?

LongTimeListener · Oct 4, 2012

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Starting wars. A lot of jobs get created starting wars.

Other than that I am not sure what growth has happened.

Bob Cook · Oct 4, 2012

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My prediction: instead of preparing vs. John Kerry, for the next debate, Obama, to get a better feel for his opponent, will train vs. a crazed weasel.

RickStain · Oct 4, 2012

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Romney's down two in the 12th end. He's got two rocks in the house, but Obama's last rock is shot and he's got two excellent defenders guarding it. Romney's going to have to throw an incredible knockout draw shot to finish the job.

dooley_womack1 · Oct 4, 2012

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YankeeFan said:

Azrael said:

Unfund PBS. Please reset your watches to 1980.

The entire CPB budget, all in, is 1/8500 of next year's US budget.

Next week: Why the art of Robert Mapplethorpe can't be funded by the NEA. (1/32000 of next year's federal budget.)
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If you don't make the easy cuts, you never get to the tough ones.
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Oh, pish! The PBS thing was a sop to the far right. If that was the one cut he chose to detail, he gave the voters no notion of what actually relevant, substantial cut he'd make.

old_tony · Oct 4, 2012

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Uncle.Ruckus said:

old_tony said:

You are aware that this country did just fine without a federal income tax for its first 137 years, aren't you?
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This is the stupidest fucking thing posted in the history of ever. You've just lapped RAMBO.
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Facts always seem stupid to you. Why is that?

dixiehack · Oct 4, 2012

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dixiehack said:

Romney won. That will get him two days of good coverage and then a toddler in Oregon will land a jet on YouTube or something. Welcome to ADD America.
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I take this back. The monthly unemployment figures come out Friday and those have consistently missed expectations for months. Mitt may indeed have his best week evah.

TheSportsPredictor · Oct 4, 2012

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old_tony said:

Azrael said:

old_tony said:

Azrael said:

exmediahack said:

The 1984 economy also looked better than 2012.
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And yet tax rates were all much higher then.

Maybe cutting taxes isn't always the answer.
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What were the 1984 tax rates compared to the 1980 tax rates?
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Much lower.

But they're also much lower now than they were in 1984. At some point, OT, the end point of your argument is that the only way to stimulate growth is no taxes at all.
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You are aware that this country did just fine without a federal income tax for its first 137 years, aren't you?
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You are aware that this country did just fine without the Republican Party for its first 78 years, aren't you?

old_tony · Oct 4, 2012

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TheSportsPredictor said:

old_tony said:

Azrael said:

old_tony said:

Azrael said:

exmediahack said:

The 1984 economy also looked better than 2012.
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And yet tax rates were all much higher then.

Maybe cutting taxes isn't always the answer.
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What were the 1984 tax rates compared to the 1980 tax rates?
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Much lower.

But they're also much lower now than they were in 1984. At some point, OT, the end point of your argument is that the only way to stimulate growth is no taxes at all.
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You are aware that this country did just fine without a federal income tax for its first 137 years, aren't you?
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You are aware that this country did just fine without the Republican Party for its first 78 years, aren't you?
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Yeah, I understand how Democrats liked the country a lot better when slavery was still in.

dooley_womack1 · Oct 4, 2012

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All Obama needs to do to turn things around is read the GOP platform point for point. A more reactionary document outside a John Birch pamphlet you'll never find.

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