FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

LongTimeListener · Oct 4, 2012

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St. Louis archdiocese marketing director posts Facebook update last night: "Mormons: 1. Indonesians: 0."

http://stl.vrvm.com/STL/pm_9174/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=TpdV9Oeb

I am starting to understand how Todd Akin can still be in that Senate race.

RickStain · Oct 4, 2012

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dooley_womack1 said:

All Obama needs to do to turn things around is read the GOP platform point for point. A more reactionary document outside a John Birch pamphlet you'll never find.
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It's amazing how often supporters are convinced their candidate can win the debate just by saying the things they already like to hear.

He's not there to win you over.

Michael_ Gee · Oct 4, 2012

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Statistic of note: Nielsen says the debate had a total audience of 58 million. If either candidate gets 58 million votes on November 6, they will almost surely lose, as total vote in 2008 was over 125 million.

dooley_womack1 · Oct 4, 2012

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RickStain said:

dooley_womack1 said:

All Obama needs to do to turn things around is read the GOP platform point for point. A more reactionary document outside a John Birch pamphlet you'll never find.
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It's amazing how often supporters are convinced their candidate can win the debate just by saying the things they already like to hear.

He's not there to win you over.
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I think there's plenty in there to sway undecideds to Obama.

RickStain · Oct 4, 2012

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Going back to my own turf:

Obama's in a technically won but difficult K+P+R vs. K+R endgame, and Romney has to do an incredible job to salvage half a point as black and try to win the armageddon tiebreaker.

Meatie Pie · Oct 4, 2012

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Sesame Street already has grouches living in trash cans. Not many more cuts it can take.

Baron Scicluna · Oct 4, 2012

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Bubbler said:

Good Lord. I'm seeing an awful lot of football spiking on the part of Republicans based on one debate and one bit of good news in an unrelenting month of bad news. Romney is an alpha male? C'mon. That's a tad bit of an overreaction.

Too early for touchdown dances. Romney merely recovered an onside kick to give himself a chance.

As for Obama? He'd be wise if he learned not to go into prevent defense again.
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Unlike the spiking the Democrats did a month ago, no Americans will get killed as a result.
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Mission Accomplished.

TheSportsPredictor · Oct 4, 2012

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old_tony said:

TheSportsPredictor said:

old_tony said:

Azrael said:

old_tony said:

Azrael said:

exmediahack said:

The 1984 economy also looked better than 2012.
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And yet tax rates were all much higher then.

Maybe cutting taxes isn't always the answer.
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What were the 1984 tax rates compared to the 1980 tax rates?
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Much lower.

But they're also much lower now than they were in 1984. At some point, OT, the end point of your argument is that the only way to stimulate growth is no taxes at all.
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You are aware that this country did just fine without a federal income tax for its first 137 years, aren't you?
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You are aware that this country did just fine without the Republican Party for its first 78 years, aren't you?
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Yeah, I understand how Democrats liked the country a lot better when slavery was still in.
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Either the country worked just fine for the first 78 years as you claimed when saying it worked just fine for the first 137 years, or it didn't work fine for the first 137 years. Which is it?

Norrin Radd · Oct 4, 2012

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dooley_womack1 said:

RickStain said:

dooley_womack1 said:

All Obama needs to do to turn things around is read the GOP platform point for point. A more reactionary document outside a John Birch pamphlet you'll never find.
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It's amazing how often supporters are convinced their candidate can win the debate just by saying the things they already like to hear.

He's not there to win you over.
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I think there's plenty in there to sway undecideds to Obama.
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Most people already in the can for a certain candidate usually feel that there is plenty to sway people to their candidate, if only the "TRUTH!!!!" could get out.

RickStain · Oct 4, 2012

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Obama has three connected two different ways, and Romney needs to block one and hope Obama misses the other before going for his own Connect Four.

cranberry · Oct 4, 2012

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Michael_ Gee said:

Statistic of note: Nielsen says the debate had a total audience of 58 million. If either candidate gets 58 million votes on November 6, they will almost surely lose, as total vote in 2008 was over 125 million.
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And the people who actually watched this incredibly tedious programming were 99.9 percent decided voters who are actually interested in politics. I watched about 20 minutes and wouldn't have watched that much if the Yankees game hadn't been such a blowout.

Inky_Wretch · Oct 4, 2012

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old_tony said:

Inky_Wretch said:

old_tony said:

All I said was this country did just fine for 137 years with no federal income tax.
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The country also had slave labor to keep costs down and a frontier filled with natural resources and cheap land to promote growth during most of that time.
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I could make a really snark comment. Instead, I'll just say this: I'm sure you have just misspoken and aren't really looking back on slavery with a wanting eye.

It's also great to see you recognize how important growth is. Now if you only understood what promotes growth here in the 21st Century.
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Only a complete and utter idiot would get that out of my post.

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