Game of Thrones, Season 8 (spoilers allowed)

I'm not going to engage with you if you're not going to read the links I actually post, or address anything in them. Cheers.

 

That would be a reasonable response if I hadn't read what was in the link or responded to its content, yet I did both. Perhaps the real issue was that you didn't read my post closely enough before going straight for the snark.

The article claims that they hadn't set up her corruption enough. Here is what I'm talking about.

"Daenerys, along with Tyrion and Jon, had spent years as the underdog — one of the “cripples, bastards and broken things” who could defy others’ expectations. In a world where women were often treated as disposable objects, Daenerys outwitted and overpowered her male enemies. As the sole protagonist in her own storyline, far from the rest of the characters, she was set up to be one of the few unambiguously heroic figures in the series.

"And then, in the penultimate episode of season 8, viewers saw her snap in just one shot. As explained by the showrunners in the post-episode breakdown, Daenerys saw the Red Keep, became enraged and made a decision to do what she’d never done before: Kill innocent civilians without reason."

Except she isn't an unambiguous hero. She was vengeful. She was brutal. She killed when she didn't have to do so. The burning of the Tarly men was an example of it.

When I wrote that the article was written as if Jon just walked up to Dany and stabbed her without trying to talk to her first, I was referring to the use of the quote from Emilia Clark saying that Jon Snow's character should have warned Dany or spoken to her about what she did. Jon Snow did do that, right before he killed her. He saw that she was so sure of her own ability to determine what is right that she wasn't going to listen. It was there in the conversation that led up to him stabbing her. That was his last hope that she might see reason.

Honestly, I didn't care for the smugness in your response. If you are going to be smug, at least be correct. You weren't.

 

‘Game Of Thrones’ Star Sophie Turner Blasts “Disrespectful” Petition Demanding Season 8 Remake

By the way, Clark may have some issues with her character's end, but other members of the cast are pushing back against the fan backlash.

 

"Broish." OK, DD.

 

Lot of that going on with @Double Down. Apparently, his interpretation of the show is the only correct one. If you dare question or disagree with his interpretation, you're "broish." He's a bit like his Mad Queen in that regard. Ready to burn it all down at a hint of disagreement.

 

Look, you're a huge fanboi about all kinds of nerd shit, constantly making excuses for stuff you like even when it's trash, and you have a long and distinguished history on this site of not actually listening to anything anyone says, just rushing to defend your points, so I don't have a lot of interest in your thoughts here in the first place. I have no issue being smug with you because, to be frank, your history warrants it. Like a lot of fanbois, you're retro-fitting excuses for how Dany was written without actually listening to what anyone is saying about it. I don't have an issue with Dany becoming Mad Queen, but just saying shit like "She didn't have to burn the Tarlys and did!" does make your argument any stronger. Tyrion's laughable speech about how she'd burned bad people all this time and they'd all cheered for her did not change how clumsy and abrupt her suddenly deciding to become a mass murderer of innocents was. You see, she looked at a building and got mad, and this was foreshadowed by that time when she killed slave masters who were castrating children and turning them into professional soldiers. Oh, and that time she locked up her dragons when they killed one child because she was so upset about it? Just ignore that because it doesn't track anymore with her defending the lives of the innocent.

These dudes needed some actually women in the writing room for Season 8, but they just wanted to hurry up and get to Star Wars. It's a shame. Instead they did shit like create a feud between Sansa and Dany because, as they said, Sansa was jealous Dany was pretty.

 

Look, if you see Jon and some sort of hero who deserved to be king, and was going to be king, then you didn't understand what the show was about from the start. It's like saying Ned Stark should have been king because he's the most moral, that he's the good guy, the protagonist. Jon managed to fuck up basically everything he touched. Sure, he was a good guy, but dear god was every single one of his decisions terrible. He would have been a disastrous king, and I guarantee there is zero chance he ends up being the king in Martin's books, should he ever finish them.

 

Except that wasn't Sansa's issue at all, so you're missing yet another point of the show. Sansa's issue was Jon handing over the North. The Starks had fought like crazy to regain Winterfell and their independence and Jon just gave it away and it seemed to her as if part of his reasoning was simply being in love with Dany.

I'm not retrofitting anything. I predicted a turn by Dany at the start of the season because I saw the signs. The quote about seeing the Red Keep setting her off was a huge mistake because they had laid groundwork for her turn.

The real issue here is you didn't see it coming. You thought Dany was an unambiguous hero and you were wrong. You don't like being wrong, so you take it out on anyone who dares disagree with our interpretation of the show.

And the rest of your post is an excuse to be lazy. Rather than deal with what I posted, you attack me. You used to be better than this. What you did here was truly disappointing.

I have criticized things about this season. I do think they rushed things. I think the coffee cup thing was funny, but inexcusable. Right now I feel comfortable with saying you are being an ass because your last few posts warrant it.

 

Can you please use small words. Bigpern no understand Game of Thrones like smart DD.

 

I don't think you're dumb at all. I think you're quite smart, in fact. I just think you had traditional expectations for this show, and the whole reason this story was written was to upend traditional fantasy expectations.

 

The whole season could have been largely salvaged if someone would have just pointed out the most obvious characteristic about Dany: Chick is a committed bottle blonde. And next to women who drive Mustangs, committed bottle blondes are the least trustworthy of the fairer sex.

 

That isn't much of a stretch since the show was always going to stick to Martin's ending even though they took a different path to get to that point.