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Game of Thrones: Spoilers - just like Winter - are coming.

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Justin_Rice, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. Here me roar

    Here me roar Guest

    yes
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It's always possible that it's all one massive red herring, especially because we get everything through unreliable narrators' points of view and not necessarily an omniscient third person.

    If she wasn't involved in the plot, then the author tried pretty hard to make it look like she was for some reason (mentioning explicitly that she straightened Sansa's hairnet, which contained the poisoned gems, one of which Sansa would later notice was missing).

    The most common assumption is that Littlefingers and the top Tyrells plotted to do it, because this would free Margaery from a bad marriage to Joffrey and also free up Sansa by implicating Tyrion, so she could marry Wilas Tyrell. But Littlefinger doublecrossed them (as he is known to do) and kept Sansa for his own purposes.
     
  3. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    Oh that's right - the poisoned hair piece. I remember now ...

    Nevertheless yeah - It could be a red herring, for sure.

    But they sure made Granny Tyrell this season look like someone who would poison Joffrey.
     
  4. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    I was reading a review today that brought up the Red Viper and gave some casting news. One of the possibilities is Naveen Andrews, better known as Sayid on "Lost."
     
  5. Here me roar

    Here me roar Guest

    That would be yummy
     
  6. Just as an aside - if you've read all the books you know that basically the end for Jon Snow is him getting attacked by mutinous Night Watch "lords". I would predict that the Red Woman brings him back or heals him (since we don't know if he dies in the attack) much like Thoros does with Barrick Dondarian (not sure on the spelling there) and in doing so she realizes that his blood is super powerful since it has the blood of the Kings of the North (Starks) and the Targareans. She may be the one who pieces together his lineage. Remember how fixated she is on the blood of Kings.
     
  7. As another aside - in the book Robb Stark legitimized Jon Snow by royal (King of the North) decree just before the Red Wedding. He never did that in the show so I'm guessing it doesn't play much of a role in future books since the show runners were made privy to eventual story arcs by Mr. "No-one gets out alive" Martin
     
  8. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    I like this theory.
     
  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    That's a very popular theory. It seems like very few people believe Snow is either actually dead or will stay dead if he is.

    Personally, I think it'd be cooler if he was for-real dead and stayed that way, but that's just me.
     
  10. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    I certainly don't think Jon Snow is dead, and I also believe in R+L=J.

    ... the "Melisandra discovers royal blood" theory was knew to me, and I like how it would fit.
     
  11. Here me roar

    Here me roar Guest

    I was dismayed when he got stabbed.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Snow tried to be honorable but dumbed his way all over everything and made the entire Night's Watch, more or less, his enemy. The NW being a remote group of cutthroats and backstabbers who had already killed the last commander.

    For him to be granted "can't stay dead" plot armor would go against what I loved about the books.
     
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