Gary Smith to retire

HumanBeing · May 5, 2014

The "longform gods" have in fact enhanced the genre.

Decadent · Dec 15, 2014

HumanBeing said:

The "longform gods" have in fact enhanced the genre.
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HumanBeing · May 5, 2014

I don't catch your meaning. Please be less cryptic in your posts.

Decadent · May 5, 2014

HumanBeing said:

I don't catch your meaning. Please be less cryptic in your posts.
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I was poking fun at you for getting the other thread locked and then bringing the same tactic to this one.

Dick Whitman · May 5, 2014

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Alma said:

Grantland had been the worst offender by some margin, but some of the early nonsense hasn't frequently replicated itself.

Insomuch as I have a beef with longform, it's when the piece has been overwritten, is unnaturally owned by the author (as in, you interviewed two people and blew that up into 3,000 words, most of which were your observations and/or phony psychoanalysis), and unnaturally epic (taking a story about a specific thing and making it Universal).
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Alma, we've been really in lockstep lately in our thinking here, first with your thoughts on the poverty thread that got locked, and now this. The observations and psychoanalysis put me to sleep, which is why I have left Gary Smith behind, in a lot of ways. I get made fun of here for being a big New Yorker fan. People think I'm pretentious for it. In actuality, I just like the writing - deeply reported and the writer stays out of the way, which is ironic to say, because the magazine uses first-person a lot in its reported pieces.
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Too bad you didn't stay out of your own way during that comment. It would have been shorter, more to the point, and better.
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I've attracted a new troll.

Sweet.

HumanBeing · May 5, 2014

Decadent said:

HumanBeing said:

I don't catch your meaning. Please be less cryptic in your posts.
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I was poking fun at you for getting the other thread locked and then bringing the same tactic to this one.
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I didn't get that thread locked.

We're discussing journalism here. Not my fault narrative journalism is the lightning rod it is on these boards.

Decadent · May 5, 2014

Dick Whitman said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Alma said:

Grantland had been the worst offender by some margin, but some of the early nonsense hasn't frequently replicated itself.

Insomuch as I have a beef with longform, it's when the piece has been overwritten, is unnaturally owned by the author (as in, you interviewed two people and blew that up into 3,000 words, most of which were your observations and/or phony psychoanalysis), and unnaturally epic (taking a story about a specific thing and making it Universal).
Click to expand...

Alma, we've been really in lockstep lately in our thinking here, first with your thoughts on the poverty thread that got locked, and now this. The observations and psychoanalysis put me to sleep, which is why I have left Gary Smith behind, in a lot of ways. I get made fun of here for being a big New Yorker fan. People think I'm pretentious for it. In actuality, I just like the writing - deeply reported and the writer stays out of the way, which is ironic to say, because the magazine uses first-person a lot in its reported pieces.
Click to expand...

Too bad you didn't stay out of your own way during that comment. It would have been shorter, more to the point, and better.
Click to expand...

I've attracted a new troll.

Sweet.
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Remember that Frasier episode where he has to fill in for the comedy guys, and he starts talking about The New Yorker?

Dick Whitman · May 5, 2014

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Alma said:

Grantland had been the worst offender by some margin, but some of the early nonsense hasn't frequently replicated itself.

Insomuch as I have a beef with longform, it's when the piece has been overwritten, is unnaturally owned by the author (as in, you interviewed two people and blew that up into 3,000 words, most of which were your observations and/or phony psychoanalysis), and unnaturally epic (taking a story about a specific thing and making it Universal).
Click to expand...

Alma, we've been really in lockstep lately in our thinking here, first with your thoughts on the poverty thread that got locked, and now this. The observations and psychoanalysis put me to sleep, which is why I have left Gary Smith behind, in a lot of ways. I get made fun of here for being a big New Yorker fan. People think I'm pretentious for it. In actuality, I just like the writing - deeply reported and the writer stays out of the way, which is ironic to say, because the magazine uses first-person a lot in its reported pieces.
Click to expand...

Too bad you didn't stay out of your own way during that comment. It would have been shorter, more to the point, and better.
Click to expand...

I've attracted a new troll.

Sweet.
Click to expand...

Remember that Frasier episode where he has to fill in for the comedy guys, and he starts talking about The New Yorker?
Click to expand...

I never watched "Frasier." I only watch HBO and, very occasionally, AMC.

Decadent · May 5, 2014

Dick Whitman said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Alma said:

Grantland had been the worst offender by some margin, but some of the early nonsense hasn't frequently replicated itself.

Insomuch as I have a beef with longform, it's when the piece has been overwritten, is unnaturally owned by the author (as in, you interviewed two people and blew that up into 3,000 words, most of which were your observations and/or phony psychoanalysis), and unnaturally epic (taking a story about a specific thing and making it Universal).
Click to expand...

Alma, we've been really in lockstep lately in our thinking here, first with your thoughts on the poverty thread that got locked, and now this. The observations and psychoanalysis put me to sleep, which is why I have left Gary Smith behind, in a lot of ways. I get made fun of here for being a big New Yorker fan. People think I'm pretentious for it. In actuality, I just like the writing - deeply reported and the writer stays out of the way, which is ironic to say, because the magazine uses first-person a lot in its reported pieces.
Click to expand...

Too bad you didn't stay out of your own way during that comment. It would have been shorter, more to the point, and better.
Click to expand...

I've attracted a new troll.

Sweet.
Click to expand...

Remember that Frasier episode where he has to fill in for the comedy guys, and he starts talking about The New Yorker?
Click to expand...

I never watched "Frasier." I only watch HBO and, very occasionally, AMC.
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OK. Did you read the article in The New Yorker about people who got drunk at fraternities/sororities and then fell off buildings?

Alma · May 5, 2014

HumanBeing said:

The "longform gods" have in fact enhanced the genre.
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We must, of course, ask two questions to clarify your opinion.

Who are the "longform gods?"

What did they do, collectively, to enhance the genre?

Alma · May 5, 2014

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Alma said:

Grantland had been the worst offender by some margin, but some of the early nonsense hasn't frequently replicated itself.

Insomuch as I have a beef with longform, it's when the piece has been overwritten, is unnaturally owned by the author (as in, you interviewed two people and blew that up into 3,000 words, most of which were your observations and/or phony psychoanalysis), and unnaturally epic (taking a story about a specific thing and making it Universal).
Click to expand...

Alma, we've been really in lockstep lately in our thinking here, first with your thoughts on the poverty thread that got locked, and now this. The observations and psychoanalysis put me to sleep, which is why I have left Gary Smith behind, in a lot of ways. I get made fun of here for being a big New Yorker fan. People think I'm pretentious for it. In actuality, I just like the writing - deeply reported and the writer stays out of the way, which is ironic to say, because the magazine uses first-person a lot in its reported pieces.
Click to expand...

Too bad you didn't stay out of your own way during that comment. It would have been shorter, more to the point, and better.
Click to expand...

I've attracted a new troll.

Sweet.
Click to expand...

Remember that Frasier episode where he has to fill in for the comedy guys, and he starts talking about The New Yorker?
Click to expand...

I never watched "Frasier." I only watch HBO and, very occasionally, AMC.
Click to expand...

OK. Did you read the article in The New Yorker about people who got drunk at fraternities/sororities and then fell off buildings?
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I thought that was in The Atlantic.

Decadent · May 5, 2014

Alma said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Decadent said:

Dick Whitman said:

Alma said:

Grantland had been the worst offender by some margin, but some of the early nonsense hasn't frequently replicated itself.

Insomuch as I have a beef with longform, it's when the piece has been overwritten, is unnaturally owned by the author (as in, you interviewed two people and blew that up into 3,000 words, most of which were your observations and/or phony psychoanalysis), and unnaturally epic (taking a story about a specific thing and making it Universal).
Click to expand...

Alma, we've been really in lockstep lately in our thinking here, first with your thoughts on the poverty thread that got locked, and now this. The observations and psychoanalysis put me to sleep, which is why I have left Gary Smith behind, in a lot of ways. I get made fun of here for being a big New Yorker fan. People think I'm pretentious for it. In actuality, I just like the writing - deeply reported and the writer stays out of the way, which is ironic to say, because the magazine uses first-person a lot in its reported pieces.
Click to expand...

Too bad you didn't stay out of your own way during that comment. It would have been shorter, more to the point, and better.
Click to expand...

I've attracted a new troll.

Sweet.
Click to expand...

Remember that Frasier episode where he has to fill in for the comedy guys, and he starts talking about The New Yorker?
Click to expand...

I never watched "Frasier." I only watch HBO and, very occasionally, AMC.
Click to expand...

OK. Did you read the article in The New Yorker about people who got drunk at fraternities/sororities and then fell off buildings?
Click to expand...

I thought that was in The Atlantic.
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Maybe it was. I know someone who subscribes to both.

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