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Gary Smith

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by sirvaliantbrown, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. Frank_Ridgeway

    Frank_Ridgeway Well-Known Member

    He went right for the porterhouse, too.
     
  2. Needles

    Needles Member

    Why don't we keep in mind one important thing here, that Smith's rap sheet is spotless. He has never been accused of bending facts or butchering quotes, let alone been accused of fabrications. This isn't Albom we're talking about.

    And if Smith and Deford are bargain basement writers, exactly who is worth a damn?

    needles
     
  3. jaredk

    jaredk Member

    Not that there's anything wrong with that....and I wasn't trying to skewer any cow, sacred or not....by the power of their talent, they've earned the right to choose their topics.....not all of us are built to sink the gaff even in the deserving....

    There's a wonderful scene early in Deford's book about his daughter, Alex....goes something like this: Alex is maybe 9 yrs old and Frank is driving and he says something spiteful about another driver...Alex scolds him, "Daddy, don't be mean," the tiny girl scolding her big daddy, and Frank says, "He couldn't hear me," and Alex says, "But you're still being mean".....maybe, after Alex's death, Frank just didn't want to be mean to anybody....
     
  4. jaredk

    jaredk Member

    Needles, come on....who accused them of being bargaiin-basement writers?....they're classy writers with impeccable reputations....my quibble with Smith's method is so small as to be invisible to most readers....I just happen to have done enough interviews on enough stories to know that there comes a time when the writer has to decide, "Really? Oh, that's good, did it really happen? I know he said it happened, but did it? Can I trust him? How do I make sure it happened?"....and when I as a reader find myself asking that question repeatedly during a story, I begin to think the writer has stretched his credit with me to near the breaking point.....happens often with Smith, almost never with Deford.....
     
  5. Needles

    Needles Member

    I understand your point, believe it or not. It's just that those writers tend to be so achingly thorough that it is hard to believe one would write something as fact if there wasn't damn good evidence it happened. If there ever is a time I don't believe Smith is not as certain of himself (and his reporting) as he typically is, it's when he writes something on deadline. The Pat Tillman story rings a bell, and so does the one he did on steroids last year.

    But if you have months to do a story -- and in the case of the Agassi piece, more than a year -- there is no reason why you cannot be certain of every fact. Smith, I have been told, annoys the hell out of many of his subjects because he calls repeatedly to ask what was behind the ketchup in the refridgerator or what Mom was wearing under her apron. The interviews, in one sense or another, never stop. It's painstaking, but apparently Smith does not mind doing that, even if the subjects do ... for the time being.

    The saying is, Report five or 10 times more than you'll write. For an 8,000-word story, just think how much Smith DOESN'T write. You've got to think some of those things he is uncertain about are somewhere in the recycling bin.

    needles
     
  6. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Rick Bragg won a Pulitzer using legmen, and we know what later happened to him.
     
  7. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    You have to go with Jack on this one. You hate -- h-a-t-e -- pieces written in the second person. You hated "bright Lights, Big City" for just that reason. You find the technique condescending. You feel like somebody's poking you in the chest. And this one just seemed excessively mannered to you.

    Pass the Bolivan Marching Powder ...
     
  8. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Perhaps someone could just ask Agassi -- he's playing all summer, through the U.S. Open -- and/or Graf what he/they thought of the piece and how it turned out and if Smith nailed it or were there some spots that weren't exactly right, etc.
     
  9. I would love to see something with a breakdown of how his subjects felt about Smith during the interview process and then again how they annoyed or not annoyed they were with him after the piece came out.

    IN the Agassi piece, Smith alludes to how Agassi asks him as many questions as he asks Agassi. I'd be interested to see how much interest Agassi had in Smith after months and months of painstaking interviews and questions or if he considered Smith a friend after spending so much time with him.
     

  10. HH --
    That may be the single greatest postmodern post in the history of SportsJournalists.com
    Well freaking played, sir.
     
  11. awriter

    awriter Active Member

    I wish he would go back to that. His Marge Schott feature is one of the greatest profiles ever written.
     
  12. Ira_Schoffel

    Ira_Schoffel Member

    This thread reinforces two truths I have known for quite some time ...

    Gary Smith is a phenomenal writer who might just be the best at what he does. What he does, however, should not necessarily be confused with critical reporting.

    And Jaredk and Frank Ridgeway are two of the wisest and most ethical folks I've had the chance to meet in this business ... and I haven't even really met them. If either of y'all ever make your way down Tallahassee way, the beer's on me.
     
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