Gay couples to be paid more to offset higher tax

YankeeFan · Jul 14, 2011

lono said:

And now, in California, schools are required to teach teh gay, with no parental opt-out: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-passes-bill-mandating-pro-gay-teaching-in-schools-no-parent-opt/
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Does anyone think it's a good idea to teach history based on some sort of quota system?

LongTimeListener · Jul 14, 2011

YankeeFan said:

lono said:

And now, in California, schools are required to teach teh gay, with no parental opt-out: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-passes-bill-mandating-pro-gay-teaching-in-schools-no-parent-opt/
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Does anyone think it's a good idea to teach history based on some sort of quota system?
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I don't know, but I better not see a Harvey Milkshake on the cafeteria menu.

BTExpress · Jul 14, 2011

So, acknowledging that homosexuals have made contributions to society is "indoctrination" and "sexual brainwashing?" Oy
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Message board Rule of Thumb 101:

A response that begins with "So, . . . " has a 99.87% chance of grossly perverting the point the original post was trying to make.

outofplace · Jul 14, 2011

lono said:

outofplace said:

lono said:

outofplace said:

YGBFKM said:

lono said:

And now, in California, schools are required to teach teh gay, with no parental opt-out: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-passes-bill-mandating-pro-gay-teaching-in-schools-no-parent-opt/
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This is exactly the kind of thing that will help our kids catch up to the rest of the world.
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Anybody got an article on this that isn't a complete hack job?
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http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/california_gov_jerry_brown_sig.html
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Thank you. So, acknowledging that homosexuals have made contributions to society is "indoctrination" and "sexual brainwashing?" Oy
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I never said that. Never said anything remotely close to that.

You might want to ask Printdust, though.
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Sorry lono. That wasn't directed at you. I meant that in response to some of the criticisms of in the article. I should have been more clear about that.

lono · Jul 14, 2011

outofplace said:

lono said:

outofplace said:

lono said:

outofplace said:

YGBFKM said:

lono said:

And now, in California, schools are required to teach teh gay, with no parental opt-out: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-passes-bill-mandating-pro-gay-teaching-in-schools-no-parent-opt/
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This is exactly the kind of thing that will help our kids catch up to the rest of the world.
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Anybody got an article on this that isn't a complete hack job?
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http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/california_gov_jerry_brown_sig.html
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Thank you. So, acknowledging that homosexuals have made contributions to society is "indoctrination" and "sexual brainwashing?" Oy
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I never said that. Never said anything remotely close to that.

You might want to ask Printdust, though.
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Sorry lono. That wasn't directed at you. I meant that in response to some of the criticisms of in the article. I should have been more clear about that.
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No worries. I appreciate the clarification.

deskslave · Jul 15, 2011

BTExpress said:

So, acknowledging that homosexuals have made contributions to society is "indoctrination" and "sexual brainwashing?" Oy
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Message board Rule of Thumb 101:

A response that begins with "So, . . . " has a 99.87% chance of grossly perverting the point the original post was trying to make.
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Its print corollary is this: Any letter to the editor that begins with "I read in the Bumblefuck County Courier that".

printdust · Jul 15, 2011

YankeeFan said:

lono said:

And now, in California, schools are required to teach teh gay, with no parental opt-out: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-passes-bill-mandating-pro-gay-teaching-in-schools-no-parent-opt/
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Does anyone think it's a good idea to teach history based on some sort of quota system?
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Hell no... and at least one of these threads is taking a logical turn.

TrooperBari · Jul 18, 2011

deskslave said:

printdust said:

And to add to it Desk, I truly believe that there are those in the gay rights group, most of which are liberals as well, who have nothing but disdain for any influence whatsoever of Christian thinking, much of which could be recognized as secular morality anyway, and would if allowed with necessarily political momentum force churches to accept this or be subject to taxation....which would then open its own pandora's box because it would set in motion a mingling of church and state that many liberals want nothing of. I sat down after getting off of this site and read a lot of websites on the biblical arguments for and against this. I still can't in good conscience support gay marriage but I also believe there's many other "sins" that are hurting our nation and that those shouldn't be ignored either. Starting with greed. And that's as much a conservative self-worship thing as any liberal could claim. It's just a really tough issue for me because deep down, I don't HATE anyone. I've known gays and see them as no different than me and would bend over backwards for them in a time of human need. It makes me sick that some paint me that way here but then again we don't even come close to knowing people through posts. But to stand against something doesn't make one hateful or bigoted.
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You know what I have disdain for? The idea that non-Christians can't be moral, and that we'd all be savages if it weren't for Moses bringing down some tablets from on high. That's what I have disdain for: The idea that Christians invented the idea of being decent to your fellow man, and that no one would have worked it out without you.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jul/17/1

printdust · Jul 18, 2011

TrooperBari said:

deskslave said:

printdust said:

And to add to it Desk, I truly believe that there are those in the gay rights group, most of which are liberals as well, who have nothing but disdain for any influence whatsoever of Christian thinking, much of which could be recognized as secular morality anyway, and would if allowed with necessarily political momentum force churches to accept this or be subject to taxation....which would then open its own pandora's box because it would set in motion a mingling of church and state that many liberals want nothing of. I sat down after getting off of this site and read a lot of websites on the biblical arguments for and against this. I still can't in good conscience support gay marriage but I also believe there's many other "sins" that are hurting our nation and that those shouldn't be ignored either. Starting with greed. And that's as much a conservative self-worship thing as any liberal could claim. It's just a really tough issue for me because deep down, I don't HATE anyone. I've known gays and see them as no different than me and would bend over backwards for them in a time of human need. It makes me sick that some paint me that way here but then again we don't even come close to knowing people through posts. But to stand against something doesn't make one hateful or bigoted.
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You know what I have disdain for? The idea that non-Christians can't be moral, and that we'd all be savages if it weren't for Moses bringing down some tablets from on high. That's what I have disdain for: The idea that Christians invented the idea of being decent to your fellow man, and that no one would have worked it out without you.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jul/17/1
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Gen 1:1 speaks of the beginning of creation. I think that precedes Moses, slave.

JC · Jul 18, 2011

printdust said:

TrooperBari said:

deskslave said:

printdust said:

And to add to it Desk, I truly believe that there are those in the gay rights group, most of which are liberals as well, who have nothing but disdain for any influence whatsoever of Christian thinking, much of which could be recognized as secular morality anyway, and would if allowed with necessarily political momentum force churches to accept this or be subject to taxation....which would then open its own pandora's box because it would set in motion a mingling of church and state that many liberals want nothing of. I sat down after getting off of this site and read a lot of websites on the biblical arguments for and against this. I still can't in good conscience support gay marriage but I also believe there's many other "sins" that are hurting our nation and that those shouldn't be ignored either. Starting with greed. And that's as much a conservative self-worship thing as any liberal could claim. It's just a really tough issue for me because deep down, I don't HATE anyone. I've known gays and see them as no different than me and would bend over backwards for them in a time of human need. It makes me sick that some paint me that way here but then again we don't even come close to knowing people through posts. But to stand against something doesn't make one hateful or bigoted.
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You know what I have disdain for? The idea that non-Christians can't be moral, and that we'd all be savages if it weren't for Moses bringing down some tablets from on high. That's what I have disdain for: The idea that Christians invented the idea of being decent to your fellow man, and that no one would have worked it out without you.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jul/17/1
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Gen 1:1 speaks of the beginning of creation. I think that precedes Moses, slave.
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A great book of fiction

printdust · Jul 18, 2011

JC said:

printdust said:

TrooperBari said:

deskslave said:

printdust said:

And to add to it Desk, I truly believe that there are those in the gay rights group, most of which are liberals as well, who have nothing but disdain for any influence whatsoever of Christian thinking, much of which could be recognized as secular morality anyway, and would if allowed with necessarily political momentum force churches to accept this or be subject to taxation....which would then open its own pandora's box because it would set in motion a mingling of church and state that many liberals want nothing of. I sat down after getting off of this site and read a lot of websites on the biblical arguments for and against this. I still can't in good conscience support gay marriage but I also believe there's many other "sins" that are hurting our nation and that those shouldn't be ignored either. Starting with greed. And that's as much a conservative self-worship thing as any liberal could claim. It's just a really tough issue for me because deep down, I don't HATE anyone. I've known gays and see them as no different than me and would bend over backwards for them in a time of human need. It makes me sick that some paint me that way here but then again we don't even come close to knowing people through posts. But to stand against something doesn't make one hateful or bigoted.
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You know what I have disdain for? The idea that non-Christians can't be moral, and that we'd all be savages if it weren't for Moses bringing down some tablets from on high. That's what I have disdain for: The idea that Christians invented the idea of being decent to your fellow man, and that no one would have worked it out without you.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jul/17/1
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Gen 1:1 speaks of the beginning of creation. I think that precedes Moses, slave.
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A great book of fiction
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Your opinion. Your life.

deskslave · Jul 18, 2011

printdust said:

TrooperBari said:

deskslave said:

printdust said:

And to add to it Desk, I truly believe that there are those in the gay rights group, most of which are liberals as well, who have nothing but disdain for any influence whatsoever of Christian thinking, much of which could be recognized as secular morality anyway, and would if allowed with necessarily political momentum force churches to accept this or be subject to taxation....which would then open its own pandora's box because it would set in motion a mingling of church and state that many liberals want nothing of. I sat down after getting off of this site and read a lot of websites on the biblical arguments for and against this. I still can't in good conscience support gay marriage but I also believe there's many other "sins" that are hurting our nation and that those shouldn't be ignored either. Starting with greed. And that's as much a conservative self-worship thing as any liberal could claim. It's just a really tough issue for me because deep down, I don't HATE anyone. I've known gays and see them as no different than me and would bend over backwards for them in a time of human need. It makes me sick that some paint me that way here but then again we don't even come close to knowing people through posts. But to stand against something doesn't make one hateful or bigoted.
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You know what I have disdain for? The idea that non-Christians can't be moral, and that we'd all be savages if it weren't for Moses bringing down some tablets from on high. That's what I have disdain for: The idea that Christians invented the idea of being decent to your fellow man, and that no one would have worked it out without you.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/punctuated-equilibrium/2011/jul/17/1
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Gen 1:1 speaks of the beginning of creation. I think that precedes Moses, slave.
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It's fabulous how you missed the point ENTIRELY. I'm not going to waste my time spelling it out again.

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