George Will on global warming

How you know they aren't buying carbon offsets to account for their time online? How do you know they aren't using solar energy to power their laptops or wind energy to power their homes?

 

Actually what most sensible people say isn't to go off the grid, but instead do some simple things to conserve, like energy efficient appliances and compact fluorescent bulbs.
Rip on Al Gore all you like, but he was saying all those things nearly 20 years ago. And instead of offering practical solutions, you throw out inane bullshit just to stir the pot.
I don't know if climate change is man-made or not, I suspect that at least some of it is, but if you're so concerned about God and Country, you might at least start to think about what you can to do.
And yes, I've started doing the simple things, like the new light bulbs. It isn't hard.

 

Personally, I drive a car that (allegedly) gets 35 mph (no it's not a hybrid, just small), use compact fluorescent bulbs, keep the heat turned down to 65 or so and use energy-efficient appliances (washer and dryer at least).

I'd have solar panels, etc. if I owned my place. Living in an apartment limits some of what I can do.

 

Anyone happen to notice that the current warming cycle started in 1976. That's right about the time America got serious about recycling. It would appear to me that recycling causes global warming. ;D ;D ;D

We must put an end to all recycling to save the planet or else we'll be under 20 feet of water in New York. And if you deny this, you also believe the earth is flat.

 

He seems to have given up arguing from industry-hacks and Danish statisticians and is now arguing from his front yard. It certainly is an improvement. Still waiting for that reading list. I'm sure he's got an annotated copy of the IPCC report by his bedside stand.

 

Yet, according to Al Gore, what you do (and I do the same things except my car only gets abut 25 mpg -- not mph, SC ) isn't nearly enough.

 

Oops on the mpg.

I don't remember Al Gore ever saying we should live off the grid and not consume at all. I must insist on a link if that's what you claim he says.

 

I never said Al Gore said we should live off the grid. But he has said what we're doing now isn't nearly enough.

And since I posted this list last week only Fenian responded to it, and only to say that the MIT professor doesn't count (MIT being such an inconsequential place as far as science and that kind of stuff).

So I'll post this list of questions again.

*Why did the glaciers melt?

*Why were the Vikings once able to farm in Greenland? (Could it be that the climate has gone through warming and cooling cycles before... without human involvement/)

*Why were the Middle Ages warmer than the global temperature now? Why did it cool off during the “Little Ice Age” (from 1600 to 1900)? And what warmed us up after that?

*Why are global temperatures now cooler than in the 1930s?

*Why is the polar ice cap on Mars melting? (Are SUVs really THAT evil?)

*Why are temperatures at the South Pole going down?

*You said that there’s a “consensus,” that man causes global warming, Mrs. Snodgrass. So how do you explain Richard Lindzen? (He's the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT.)

*Why have the “experts” been wrong so often? (When they predicted global freezing? , or Hurricanes? Or when they all embraced the bogus hockey stick model of global warming until it was discredited?) So why should we believe them now?

*If we adopted the Kyoto treaty how much would the temperatures actually go down, especially if it doesn’t cover countries like China?

*Every 10 days China fires up a coal-fueled generating plant big enough to power a mid-sized city. According to George Will, China will construct 2,200 new coal plants by 2030. Should we shut down one our own plants every time China opens another one, Mrs. Snodgrass? And if we did, would that mean we wouldn’t have to come to school during the winter anymore?

 

Again, you didn't answer my question. Not that I'm in the least bit suprised.

Personally, I think global warming is caused by a variety of factors, some natural and some man-made.

I don't see how cutting back on our energy consumption is a bad thing, but I'm just a dumb liberal.

Earth will be fine. Any damage we as humans do she'll recover from in time, but if the planet becomes inhospitable for humans . . . well, ya know.

 

The reason AL Gore said what he said, is because most are doing nothing.
And big whoop on MIT, you can find professors at legit places who believe the Holocaust is a myth.
Elizabeth Kolbert summed it up nicely in the New Yorker.

The article also went into detail about the report issued from Paris and concluded it would be suicidal if changes didn't start happening soon.
Why is it so hard to take small steps to conserve?

 

OT,
You can find a single scientist or web site to support anything. So what? Look at the majority of opinion from people exponentially smarter than you or me.

You talk about people not answering questions, well answer this one: Do you honestly believe that you're smarter than hundreds of scientists from 113 different countries? I asked this question before and you completely dodged it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2843292

The world's leading climate scientists said global warming has begun, is "very likely" caused by man, and will be unstoppable for centuries, according to a report obtained Friday by The Associated Press.

The scientists using their strongest language yet on the issue said now that the world has begun to warm, hotter temperatures and rises in sea level "would continue for centuries," no matter how much humans control their pollution. The report also linked the warming to the recent increase in stronger hurricanes.

"The observed widespread warming of the atmosphere and ocean, together with ice-mass loss, support the conclusion that it is extremely unlikely that global climate change of the past 50 years can be explained without external forcing, and very likely that is not due to known natural causes alone," said the report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change a group of hundreds of scientists and representatives of 113 governments.

The phrase "very likely" translates to a more than 90 percent certainty that global warming is caused by man's burning of fossil fuels. That was the strongest conclusion to date, making it nearly impossible to say natural forces are to blame.

 

Very likely doesn't mean shit when you consider that the earth has warmed and cooled in cycles all the time. SAying that man is causing it because it's happening and man is here is much like my example up the board where it started happening right around the time recycling became popular.

The earth cooled from 1945 to 1976, yet there were a ton of factories running then and they were polluting a lot more back then than they are now thanks to laws and technology.

And, again, no one touches the questions.