1. Welcome to SportsJournalists.com, a friendly forum for discussing all things sports and journalism.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register for a free account to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Access to private conversations with other members.
    • Fewer ads.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Glavine, Maddux & Smoltz

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Michael Echan, Feb 23, 2008.

Page 5 of 8
  1. Rumpleforeskin

    Rumpleforeskin Active Member

    Jeannie Finch would have dominated.
     
    Rumpleforeskin, Feb 23, 2008
    #49
  2. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Mussina, Clemens, Rivera (Ducking)

    Sutter, Glavine, Smoltz

    Bunning, Drysdale, Sutton

    Feller, Lemon, Wynn

    Feller, Lemon, Paige

    Wynn, Lemon, Feller, Newhouser

    OK, I'm sure there are more, but I will stop with four.
     
    93Devil, Feb 23, 2008
    #50
  3. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    The only way Mike Mussina gets in the Hall of Fame is buy paying the $12 it takes to get in. Hall of Fame my fucking ass.
     
    Flying Headbutt, Feb 23, 2008
    #51
  4. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I knew that was coming. Shit, he might have a better chance than Roger.
     
    93Devil, Feb 23, 2008
    #52
  5. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Damn skippy.

    93Devil, why did you add ducking after Rivera's name?
     
    hockeybeat, Feb 23, 2008
    #53
  6. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Not after the condescending way he has treated writers throughout his career.
     
    hockeybeat, Feb 23, 2008
    #54
  7. mike311gd

    mike311gd Active Member

    Is someone bitter?
     
    mike311gd, Feb 23, 2008
    #55
  8. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Oh, The Sandman is in the Hall. I was ducking for the trio I mentioned.
     
    93Devil, Feb 23, 2008
    #56
  9. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Lets see...

    0 World Series Rings
    0 no-hitters
    0 20-win seasons

    300 wins? Nope

    Dickhead? Yep

    Hall of Fame? I'm sure it's a hell of a scenic drive from Bumblefuck, Pa, to more northern Bumblefuck, NY.
     
    Flying Headbutt, Feb 23, 2008
    #57
  10. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Crazy talk. In what way does Morris > Glavine in any meaningful way, besides complete games? It's not even a contest.

    Glavine/Morris
    W- 303/254 - edge TG
    L- 199/186 - edge JM
    ERA- 3.51/3.90 (vs. league ERAs of 4.16/4.08 -- that's right; Glavine's NL was tougher than Morris' AL) - edge TG
    ERA+- 119/105 - edge TG
    CG- 56/175 - edge JM
    SHO- 25/28 - edge JM
    IP - 4350/3824 - edge TG
    GS - 669/527 - edge TG
    WHIP - 1.309/1.296 - edge JM
    K/BB - 1.76/1.78 - edge JM

    And yes, Glavine's postseason ERA, in 218 IP, is almost a half-run lower than Morris', in just 92 IP. And Glavine's one-hitter = Morris' 10-inning shutout, as far as clutch World Series-clinching performances. So Morris doesn't even have that to hang his hat on.

    Not even close.
     
    buckweaver, Feb 23, 2008
    #58
  11. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    But Morris won the most games of anyone in the eighties ... (insert other trivial stats here)
     
    Steak Snabler, Feb 23, 2008
    #59
  12. Rumpleforeskin

    Rumpleforeskin Active Member

    Buck, those stats are great and all, but also take into account Glavine has played four more years than Morris did. You can drop his IP by at least 800 and his GS by at least 100. That would also force down his other stats, which would make it closer than the stats lead you to believe between the two.
     
    Rumpleforeskin, Feb 23, 2008
    #60
Page 5 of 8
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page