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Glee

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by DanOregon, May 20, 2009.

  1. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I do and I loved it.
     
  2. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    So? It wasn't the only song on the show. And it at least fit the plot, even if I've had enough of Rachel.

    Besides, something tells me the Gleeks care more that Lea Michele sang it, than they do about the fact it's from a movie they've never heard of.

    The songs are in the realm of overkill at this point.

    "I have something to say to Kurt . . . but I wanna sing it!" Neat. Now get through it so we can get more great lines from Kurt regarding his views on religion.

    What I liked about it was that everyone was acting like he should cling to religion, and he pointed out that he should have the right to tell them to stick it.
     
  3. Iron_chet

    Iron_chet Well-Known Member

    I thought the episode was tremendous.

    I watched with my 13 year old and not to get all after school specialis, the episode sparked some good conversation between us.

    I thought it did a great job of good drama, loved the Sue stuff with her sister.

    I am not a big show tunes fan and tend to enjoy the singing when it is songs I know being performed.
     
  4. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Piotr, I agree that the device of "I've prepared a song for the class to express how I feel..." has been used too much. But on the other hand, we had people bitching about the fantasy sequences in the Britney/Brittnay episode, saying they were too music video-y, which seems like a clear stab at generating downloads. I think, in general, they're still doing a decent job of juggling the two worlds. It's kind of a tricky thing, figured out how to fit songs into the plot, but maintain the heightened reality they've established without going overboard. I always enjoy episodes like this because I can promise you, almost no one on this board is the target demo for Glee. Fox would love it if they would do more episodes like the Britney/Brittnay ep, or the Lady Gaga ep. Those are the episodes that are blatant download whoring.

    Only the Good Die Young was released in 1977. Bridge Over Troubled Water in 1970. I Wanna Hold Your Hand in 1963. Yentl was released in 1983. Losing My Religion in 1991.

    Those covers are, in some respects, about exposing those songs to a new audience. The way they get there may be a bit clumsy/overdone but I suspect they'd make a lot more money if they just redid songs by Drake and Miley.

    IJAG, I didn't think it was a pro-religion episode. I thought it was actually more about debating the idea of faith. I thought it asked interesting questions, and the plot wasn't resolved by Kurt believing in God, just family. [I also appreciated that his father didn't just snap out of it, that he looks like he's in for a slow recovery.] The point of Kurt and Sue's doubts seemed to be their acceptance of others having faith, and that they were eventually fine with their friends praying for them, even if they remained steadfast in their non-belief.
     
  5. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    Not what I took from it at all.

    What I took from it was as soon as Kurt went to church and got all weepy-eyed, and once Sue's sister told her she believed, they suddenly got all pensive and started to wonder. Then magically, Kurt goes back to his dad's bedside, says "I should have let them pray for you" and his dad suddenly squeezes his hand after a week-plus of being comatose? And Sue's suddenly willing to overlook the church vs. state issue to let them sing Joan Osborne?

    Horrid. It was bad enough I might not come back.
     
  6. I didn't think Kurt questioned his own non-belief. I thought he said during the speech to his father that he still didn't believe in God. What I took from it is that religion/belief in God/higher being isn't for everybody -- but we can at least be tolerant of each others' beliefs.

    Also, if it was after school hours was it a separation of church and state issue? I thought groups like the Fellowship of Christian Athletes could meet before/after school. I figured the glee club met primarily outside of class time, but I could be wrong.
     
  7. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    No thoughts on Chee-sus? That might have been the best thing they've done.
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Sue was willing to see things through her sister's eyes.
     
  9. Wenders

    Wenders Well-Known Member

    Yes. I think Kurt finally realized that while he doesn't necessarily believe, that it was Mercedes and Rachel's way of wanting him to know that they were there for him by praying for his dad.

    I think this episode showed wonderfully the difference between the people who believe that prayer can help anyone and the people who rely more on medical science. It's not like at the end of the episode, Kurt suddenly completely believed in Jesus.

    Also, I can't believe that he ACTUALLY WENT TO SCHOOL. Sorry, if one of my parents, especially my last living parent, was in the hospital in a coma, I'd tell school to fuck off and I would just sleep at the hospital.
     
  10. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    I believe in Chee-sus. Cheddar Chee-sus actually.
     
  11. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Which is, in a nutshell, my wife's problem with the show. The idea that a lot of people might see these as "Glee!" songs instead of discovering the original artists.
     
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Original artists? Both Elvis and Aretha do better versions of Bridge Over Troubled Water than Simon and Garfunkel.
     
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