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"Go play intramurals, brother"

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by FishHack76, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. Editude

    Editude Active Member

    But what do self-respecting parents care how many weeks off their college kids get? Are they milking cows on the family farm? If not, let them fight their own battles.
     
  2. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    On one level, I agree with Hawkins. This isn't high school, or intramurals. You work in exchange for your college scholarship. It is far, far from a free ride, and a coach is certainly justified to have high expectations.

    But it's also a little much to expect an 18 or 19-year-old kid to "fight his own battles" when the opponent is a college athletic department that has resources coleg ekids don't.

    You don't have to be a whiney, helicopter parent. But you can't stop being a parent, either. Until your child can look out for himself/herself (and you have to expedite the process by demanding responsibility and accountability), you're there to help if necessary. Within reason, of course.

    Like it or don't, you never stop being a parent.

    And as far as Hawkins being a disciplinarian, his actions in Boise would tend to indicate otherwise, especially if the party in legal trouble was the star quarterback or star linebacker.
     
  3. Shaggy

    Shaggy Guest

    Sure, they're optional. But Hawkins also has the option of keeping your ass on the bench if he sees fit. So, they're not optional.

    Colorado is hardly the only school with unoptional optional conditioning programs.
     
  4. NoOneLikesUs

    NoOneLikesUs Active Member

    Why even bring this up?

    He should have threw the letter in the trash and let that be the end of it. There was no need to freak out like a lunatic in front of the press.
     
  5. WSKY

    WSKY Member

    It's motivation, brother.
     
  6. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    But according to NCAA rules, coaches may not participate in, or even watch, optional workouts (a member of the s&c staff can run voluntary conditioning workouts, though).

    And the manual is quite specific that attendance at off-season voluntary workouts cannot be taken. So unless he's willingly violating NCAA rules, how does the Hawk know who is there, and who isn't?

    He should have just filed the letter and kept his mouth shut. But Hawkins likes to hear himself talk sometimes.
     
  7. D-3 Fan

    D-3 Fan Well-Known Member

    Dan Hawkins isn't who we thought he was.

    Damn, that was a good listen. Those whiny ass parents who wanted Barnett to stay pretty much showed how bad things were in that program when Hawkins arrived in Boulder.
     
  8. WSKY

    WSKY Member

    Hawkins will win there ... or he'll at least go kicking and SCREAMING.
     
  9. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    If hawkins gets fired, can we pair him on radio with Mike Valenti?

    MAKE PLAYS!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. expendable

    expendable Well-Known Member

    So you're saying he'll get them to the PLAYOFFS...err, BOWLS.


    BOWLS? Don't talk to me about BOWLS!!!
     
  11. Shaggy

    Shaggy Guest

    Oh c'mon. The strength coach is in charge of these workouts, and you don't think he notices when someone's not coming? You don't think he's going to go tell the coach, "hey, you're starting tight end hasn't shown up in three weeks."

    Do you think the head coach -- many of them as nice as Hitler -- is going to reply by saying "They're optional. Who cares?"

    You can't possibly be this naive.
     
  12. Shaggy

    Shaggy Guest

    You make it sound like Hawkins is the only one to find a way to make optional summer conditioning "mandatory." It's done in, I bet, 100 of the 119 Division I-A programs.
     
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