Goodbye Dixie, with love ...

Cousin Oliver · Nov 11, 2009

zagoshe said:

Well there are two scientific sides to the debate and probably a few more if you really look at it.

I'm all for seperation of chruch and state but this is not an area where that necessarily applies because there are some historical texts in the old testament which have scientific evidence to back them up. As a historical book, the bible is actually a good resource - and even the most staunch God-hating academic pinheads wouldn't argue that point.

But this is not about creation versus evolution - we can argue that on another thread.

It is the idea that if people don't see the world through the same eyes as JR and the rest of the arrogant elitist pricks who have ruined this country - they are being intolerant....yet somehow JR, who readily admits his opinion is more valid than the opinion of others, IS being tolerant...

That's hypocritical bullshit.
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The Flat Earth Society agrees.

JR · Nov 11, 2009

zagoshe said:

JR said:

There' no irony at all. Sounds like you're another graduate from the Zag School of Reading Comprehension

If you believe that creationism --or any form of religious belief--has any standing in the scientific community, you're a proud member of Idiot America. You can believe in the flying spaghetti monster for all I care---just don't insult people's intelligence by pretending it has any kind of intellectual respectablity. It is, by it's nature, anti-intellectual.

This has nothing to do with tolerance. It's about this relatively recent phenomena--you can blame radio talk shows and the internet probably---that maintains ALL opinions are equally valid and that we should give crackpots some sort of intellectual respectability. They used to sit in the corner, drool. and talk to themselves. Now they have book deals.

I think the tipping point for all this was Fredo saying that creationism should be taught in the schools so students know both sides of the debate.

Well, I'm sorry but there are not two sides to a scientific debate when you bring fairy tales to the party.
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Well there are two scientific sides to the debate and probably a few more if you really look at it.

I'm all for seperation of chruch and state but this is not an area where that necessarily applies because there are some historical texts in the old testament which have scientific evidence to back them up. As a historical book, the bible is actually a good resource - and even the most staunch God-hating academic pinheads wouldn't argue that point.

But this is not about creation versus evolution - we can argue that on another thread.

It is the idea that if people don't see the world through the same eyes as JR and the rest of the arrogant elitist pricks who have ruined this country - they are being intolerant....yet somehow JR, who readily admits his opinion is more valid than the opinion of others, IS being tolerant...

That's hypocritical bullshit.
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I hate to inform you but there aren't two sides to this debate.

This is indeed about creationism versus evolution. One is mythology, the other is science. The Bible has nothing to say about the theory of evolution any more than Grimm's Fairy Tales does.

And I never said I was tolerant about everything. Mouthbreathers who inject religion into scientific debate--and expect equal standing because it's their opinion--- deserve all the ridicule they get.

You can have an opinion about creationism--that's your God given right--but as science it has no validity. But when I call you on your ignorance--and you're apprently proud of it--I'm being an elitist.

Oggiedoggie · Dec 15, 2014

Jesus_Muscatel · Dec 15, 2014

Chef said:

zagoshe said:

Oh fuck - what the fuck is wrong with this country.

The wussification of America by politically correct pinheads is complete.
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Them sumbitches just ran across my backyard ...

hondo · Nov 11, 2009

JR said:

zagoshe said:

JR said:

There' no irony at all. Sounds like you're another graduate from the Zag School of Reading Comprehension

If you believe that creationism --or any form of religious belief--has any standing in the scientific community, you're a proud member of Idiot America. You can believe in the flying spaghetti monster for all I care---just don't insult people's intelligence by pretending it has any kind of intellectual respectablity. It is, by it's nature, anti-intellectual.

This has nothing to do with tolerance. It's about this relatively recent phenomena--you can blame radio talk shows and the internet probably---that maintains ALL opinions are equally valid and that we should give crackpots some sort of intellectual respectability. They used to sit in the corner, drool. and talk to themselves. Now they have book deals.

I think the tipping point for all this was Fredo saying that creationism should be taught in the schools so students know both sides of the debate.

Well, I'm sorry but there are not two sides to a scientific debate when you bring fairy tales to the party.
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Well there are two scientific sides to the debate and probably a few more if you really look at it.

I'm all for seperation of chruch and state but this is not an area where that necessarily applies because there are some historical texts in the old testament which have scientific evidence to back them up. As a historical book, the bible is actually a good resource - and even the most staunch God-hating academic pinheads wouldn't argue that point.

But this is not about creation versus evolution - we can argue that on another thread.

It is the idea that if people don't see the world through the same eyes as JR and the rest of the arrogant elitist pricks who have ruined this country - they are being intolerant....yet somehow JR, who readily admits his opinion is more valid than the opinion of others, IS being tolerant...

That's hypocritical bullshit.
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I hate to inform you but there aren't two sides to this debate.

This is indeed about creationism versus evolution. One is mythology, the other is science. The Bible has nothing to say about the theory of evolution any more than Grimm's Fairy Tales does.

And I never said I was tolerant about everything. Mouthbreathers who inject religion into scientific debate--and expect equal standing because it's their opinion--- deserve all the ridicule they get.

You can have an opinion about creationism--that's your God given right--but as science it has no validity. But when I call you on your ignorance--and you're apprently proud of it--I'm being an elitist.
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What if you eventually are proven wrong about the creation?

hondo · Nov 11, 2009

And if I'm not mistaken, the South already has risen:

BCS national champions
98-Tennessee
99-FSU
01-Miami
03-LSU
05-Texas
06-Florida
07-LSU
08-Florida

From this week's AP poll:

1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. TCU
7. Georgia Tech
12. Miami
13. Houston
20. Virginia Tech
23. South Florida
24. Clemson

steveu · Nov 11, 2009

zagoshe said:

three_bags_full said:

I like the move. I've said for several years now that it was the ultimate in hypocrisy to allow it to go on as long as it did. Khayat let it go on too long and missed a good chance to fix it before he left.
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No the ultimate hypocrisy is to say you are a place of a free exchange of ideas and a place of diversity and place where people learn to meet and deal with people of different cultures, backgrounds and beliefs - then shouting one group down when you don't like what they say.
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Oh, for that politics board to be open about now...

Mizzougrad96 · Nov 11, 2009

hondo said:

And if I'm not mistaken, the South already has risen:

BCS national champions
98-Tennessee
99-FSU
01-Miami
03-LSU
05-Texas
06-Florida
07-LSU
08-Florida

From this week's AP poll:

1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. TCU
7. Georgia Tech
12. Miami
13. Houston
20. Virginia Tech
23. South Florida
24. Clemson
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You're not claiming Southern Cal as well?

Ace · Nov 11, 2009

zagoshe said:

Yes, universities are where kids go to learn, expand their horizons, learn how to meet people, expand on their world view, meet people with different views and from different experiences -- until some pinhead in charge makes a ridiculous decision like this.
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I would never have pegged you as a black guy, Zag.

Drip · Nov 11, 2009

hondo said:

And if I'm not mistaken, the South already has risen:

BCS national champions
98-Tennessee
99-FSU
01-Miami
03-LSU
05-Texas
06-Florida
07-LSU
08-Florida

From this week's AP poll:

1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. TCU
7. Georgia Tech
12. Miami
13. Houston
20. Virginia Tech
23. South Florida
24. Clemson
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Hey, football isn't the ONLY sport played in America.

Mizzougrad96 · Nov 11, 2009

It may not be the only sport, but it seems like it's the only decent team sport these days...

Jesus_Muscatel · Nov 11, 2009

Ace said:

zagoshe said:

Yes, universities are where kids go to learn, expand their horizons, learn how to meet people, expand on their world view, meet people with different views and from different experiences -- until some pinhead in charge makes a ridiculous decision like this.
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I would never have pegged you as a black guy, Zag.
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Black guy in the hangar in "Stripes": "What did he say?"
John Candy, pushing somebody out of the way and nonchalantly tossing his rifle, "He said, black guys, help the white guys!"

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