Goodbye Dixie, with love ...

JR · Nov 11, 2009

hondo said:

JR said:

zagoshe said:

JR said:

There' no irony at all. Sounds like you're another graduate from the Zag School of Reading Comprehension

If you believe that creationism --or any form of religious belief--has any standing in the scientific community, you're a proud member of Idiot America. You can believe in the flying spaghetti monster for all I care---just don't insult people's intelligence by pretending it has any kind of intellectual respectablity. It is, by it's nature, anti-intellectual.

This has nothing to do with tolerance. It's about this relatively recent phenomena--you can blame radio talk shows and the internet probably---that maintains ALL opinions are equally valid and that we should give crackpots some sort of intellectual respectability. They used to sit in the corner, drool. and talk to themselves. Now they have book deals.

I think the tipping point for all this was Fredo saying that creationism should be taught in the schools so students know both sides of the debate.

Well, I'm sorry but there are not two sides to a scientific debate when you bring fairy tales to the party.
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Well there are two scientific sides to the debate and probably a few more if you really look at it.

I'm all for seperation of chruch and state but this is not an area where that necessarily applies because there are some historical texts in the old testament which have scientific evidence to back them up. As a historical book, the bible is actually a good resource - and even the most staunch God-hating academic pinheads wouldn't argue that point.

But this is not about creation versus evolution - we can argue that on another thread.

It is the idea that if people don't see the world through the same eyes as JR and the rest of the arrogant elitist pricks who have ruined this country - they are being intolerant....yet somehow JR, who readily admits his opinion is more valid than the opinion of others, IS being tolerant...

That's hypocritical bullshit.
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I hate to inform you but there aren't two sides to this debate.

This is indeed about creationism versus evolution. One is mythology, the other is science. The Bible has nothing to say about the theory of evolution any more than Grimm's Fairy Tales does.

And I never said I was tolerant about everything. Mouthbreathers who inject religion into scientific debate--and expect equal standing because it's their opinion--- deserve all the ridicule they get.

You can have an opinion about creationism--that's your God given right--but as science it has no validity. But when I call you on your ignorance--and you're apprently proud of it--I'm being an elitist.
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What if you eventually are proven wrong about the creation?
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The chances of that happening are about as slim as the Leafs winning the Stanley Cup.

Tell you what.

Since I'll probably croak first I'll grab a meeting with God when I get up there and ask Her about the creation stuff.

And I'll send a message back to you.

One angel----you win.

Plague of locusts--you lose.

Boom_70 · Nov 11, 2009

JR said:

hondo said:

JR said:

zagoshe said:

JR said:

There' no irony at all. Sounds like you're another graduate from the Zag School of Reading Comprehension

If you believe that creationism --or any form of religious belief--has any standing in the scientific community, you're a proud member of Idiot America. You can believe in the flying spaghetti monster for all I care---just don't insult people's intelligence by pretending it has any kind of intellectual respectablity. It is, by it's nature, anti-intellectual.

This has nothing to do with tolerance. It's about this relatively recent phenomena--you can blame radio talk shows and the internet probably---that maintains ALL opinions are equally valid and that we should give crackpots some sort of intellectual respectability. They used to sit in the corner, drool. and talk to themselves. Now they have book deals.

I think the tipping point for all this was Fredo saying that creationism should be taught in the schools so students know both sides of the debate.

Well, I'm sorry but there are not two sides to a scientific debate when you bring fairy tales to the party.
Click to expand...

Well there are two scientific sides to the debate and probably a few more if you really look at it.

I'm all for seperation of chruch and state but this is not an area where that necessarily applies because there are some historical texts in the old testament which have scientific evidence to back them up. As a historical book, the bible is actually a good resource - and even the most staunch God-hating academic pinheads wouldn't argue that point.

But this is not about creation versus evolution - we can argue that on another thread.

It is the idea that if people don't see the world through the same eyes as JR and the rest of the arrogant elitist pricks who have ruined this country - they are being intolerant....yet somehow JR, who readily admits his opinion is more valid than the opinion of others, IS being tolerant...

That's hypocritical bullshit.
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I hate to inform you but there aren't two sides to this debate.

This is indeed about creationism versus evolution. One is mythology, the other is science. The Bible has nothing to say about the theory of evolution any more than Grimm's Fairy Tales does.

And I never said I was tolerant about everything. Mouthbreathers who inject religion into scientific debate--and expect equal standing because it's their opinion--- deserve all the ridicule they get.

You can have an opinion about creationism--that's your God given right--but as science it has no validity. But when I call you on your ignorance--and you're apprently proud of it--I'm being an elitist.
Click to expand...

What if you eventually are proven wrong about the creation?
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The chances of that happening are about as slim as the Leafs winning the Stanley Cup.

Tell you what.

Since I'll probably croak first I'll grab a meeting with God when I get up there and ask Her about the creation stuff.

And I'll send a message back to you.

One angel----you win.

Plague of locusts--you lose.
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27 virgins - you jumped on the wrong bus.

hondo · Nov 11, 2009

JR said:

hondo said:

JR said:

zagoshe said:

JR said:

There' no irony at all. Sounds like you're another graduate from the Zag School of Reading Comprehension

If you believe that creationism --or any form of religious belief--has any standing in the scientific community, you're a proud member of Idiot America. You can believe in the flying spaghetti monster for all I care---just don't insult people's intelligence by pretending it has any kind of intellectual respectablity. It is, by it's nature, anti-intellectual.

This has nothing to do with tolerance. It's about this relatively recent phenomena--you can blame radio talk shows and the internet probably---that maintains ALL opinions are equally valid and that we should give crackpots some sort of intellectual respectability. They used to sit in the corner, drool. and talk to themselves. Now they have book deals.

I think the tipping point for all this was Fredo saying that creationism should be taught in the schools so students know both sides of the debate.

Well, I'm sorry but there are not two sides to a scientific debate when you bring fairy tales to the party.
Click to expand...

Well there are two scientific sides to the debate and probably a few more if you really look at it.

I'm all for seperation of chruch and state but this is not an area where that necessarily applies because there are some historical texts in the old testament which have scientific evidence to back them up. As a historical book, the bible is actually a good resource - and even the most staunch God-hating academic pinheads wouldn't argue that point.

But this is not about creation versus evolution - we can argue that on another thread.

It is the idea that if people don't see the world through the same eyes as JR and the rest of the arrogant elitist pricks who have ruined this country - they are being intolerant....yet somehow JR, who readily admits his opinion is more valid than the opinion of others, IS being tolerant...

That's hypocritical bullshit.
Click to expand...

I hate to inform you but there aren't two sides to this debate.

This is indeed about creationism versus evolution. One is mythology, the other is science. The Bible has nothing to say about the theory of evolution any more than Grimm's Fairy Tales does.

And I never said I was tolerant about everything. Mouthbreathers who inject religion into scientific debate--and expect equal standing because it's their opinion--- deserve all the ridicule they get.

You can have an opinion about creationism--that's your God given right--but as science it has no validity. But when I call you on your ignorance--and you're apprently proud of it--I'm being an elitist.
Click to expand...

What if you eventually are proven wrong about the creation?
Click to expand...

The chances of that happening are about as slim as the Leafs winning the Stanley Cup.

Tell you what.

Since I'll probably croak first I'll grab a meeting with God when I get up there and ask Her about the creation stuff.

And I'll send a message back to you.

One angel----you win.

Plague of locusts--you lose.
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Well, you hope you're right.

Nola4520 · Nov 12, 2009

Was working at the game Saturday ... didn't think to listen when it was played in pregame, so I can't say I heard the chant. Postgame, there wasn't about 2,000 in the stands and little to no students (they bailed when the game when Ole Miss's way in the third quarter).

One interesting thing I saw walking through Oxford before the game. Small shop had window display of hats, shirts, etc. with "Never Forgotten" and just a a familiar-looking wide-brimmed hat and moustache in grey on a red or blue field. Some people there are still sore about "Colonel Reb" no longer being the official mascot. I guess.

Drip · Nov 12, 2009

Jesus_Muscatel said:

Ace said:

zagoshe said:

Yes, universities are where kids go to learn, expand their horizons, learn how to meet people, expand on their world view, meet people with different views and from different experiences -- until some pinhead in charge makes a ridiculous decision like this.
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I would never have pegged you as a black guy, Zag.
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Black guy in the hangar in "Stripes": "What did he say?"
John Candy, pushing somebody out of the way and nonchalantly tossing his rifle, "He said, black guys, help the white guys!"
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And then a fight breaks out.

Ben_Hecht · Nov 12, 2009

hondo said:

And if I'm not mistaken, the South already has risen:

BCS national champions
98-Tennessee
99-FSU
01-Miami
03-LSU
05-Texas
06-Florida
07-LSU
08-Florida

From this week's AP poll:

1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. TCU
7. Georgia Tech
12. Miami
13. Houston
20. Virginia Tech
23. South Florida
24. Clemson
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Top athletes like to walk outside and be warm in February.

Can't blame them.

DanOregon · Nov 12, 2009

I do find it interesting to see the dominance of teams playing south of the Mason-Dixon line. Maybe they should expand the Lambert trophy to include Oregon, Boise, and Iowa.

Oggiedoggie · Nov 12, 2009

Turns out that "From Dixie With Love" was just the opening shot in this war of oppression:

DANVERS, Mass. — Who knew "Meep!" was a four-letter word? The utterance favored by bungling lab assistant Beaker of "The Muppet Show" has been banned at Danvers High School in Massachusetts after students said it to repeatedly interrupt school.

Principal Thomas Murray said the word was part of a disruption planned using Facebook.

The Salem News reports that parents recently got an automated call about "Meep!" from Murray. He warned them that students who said or displayed the word at school could be suspended.

Murray says the warning was needed because students didn't heed his "reasonable request" to stop the meeping.
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From: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jE_jGmk8NKFD7AB1b20ncitdtxAQD9BU8GVG1

fossywriter8 · Nov 12, 2009

MEEP!

Inky_Wretch · Nov 19, 2009

In a move sure to help Ole Miss during recruiting, the mouthbreathing Klan will rally Saturday ...

“We are coming to Ole Miss to say enough is enough on attacking our Christian, southern heritage and culture, and it’s time for every person to have a right to freedom of speech,” Tate said.

Lago confirmed Ole Miss has been contacted by the KKK and said the group has the right to voice its opinions as long as it doesn’t interfere with university activity or the personal rights of others.

“We aren’t coming there to cause problems or cause trouble,” Tate said. “Trouble has already been caused by a handful at Ole Miss, including the black student body president, who wants to shape Ole Miss into yet another liberal sodomite college.”
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http://www.lsureveille.com/news/kkk-planning-rally-in-miss-1.2090515

Drip · Nov 19, 2009

Inky_Wretch said:

In a move sure to help Ole Miss during recruiting, the mouthbreathing Klan will rally Saturday ...

“We are coming to Ole Miss to say enough is enough on attacking our Christian, southern heritage and culture, and it’s time for every person to have a right to freedom of speech,” Tate said.

Lago confirmed Ole Miss has been contacted by the KKK and said the group has the right to voice its opinions as long as it doesn’t interfere with university activity or the personal rights of others.

“We aren’t coming there to cause problems or cause trouble,” Tate said. “Trouble has already been caused by a handful at Ole Miss, including the black student body president, who wants to shape Ole Miss into yet another liberal sodomite college.”
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http://www.lsureveille.com/news/kkk-planning-rally-in-miss-1.2090515
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The circus in Oxford will definitely be cut short. The Klan won't be anywhere near the stadium or the grove.

JR · Nov 19, 2009

Love this quote:

“We aren’t coming there to cause problems or cause trouble,” Tate said. “Trouble has already been caused by a handful at Ole Miss, including the black student body president, who wants to shape Ole Miss into yet another liberal sodomite college.”

Naive me, I thought the KKK was dead and gone a long time ago.

Plus ca change...............

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