GOP VP thread: Palin is the pick

93Devil · Aug 29, 2008

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deskslave said:

Is anyone going to be comfortable with her heading the GOP ticket in 2012? Because that's a distinct, indeed likely, possibility.
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Like I said, it will be her vs. Hillary if the GOP wins this time.

Dickens Cider · Aug 29, 2008

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JR said:

Where did it say she's a creationist? I read a couple of pieces on her and didn't see that mentioned.
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http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html

Kato · Aug 29, 2008

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deskslave said:

Guy_Incognito said:

spnited said:

spnited said:

“They’re beyond ecstatic,” said Ralph Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition. “This is a home run. She is a reformer governor who is solidly pro-life and a person of deep Christian faith. And she is really one of the bright shining new stars in the Republican firmament.”

Ms. Palin is known to conservatives for choosing not to have an abortion after learning that she was carrying a child with Down syndrome. “It is almost impossible to exaggerate how important that is to the conservative faith community,” Mr. Reed said.
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I repeat this post and quote from Ralph Reed.
This is all I need to know about Mrs. Palin.

And if it were so important that she not have an abortion after she learned she was carrying a Down syndrome child, why is it now not important to be home with that 4-month old instead of out campaigning for vice president?
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What the hell is wrong with you? If you plan on working, and having help at home you might as well kill your kid? You can't have meant that.
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She made a conscious decision to have a special-needs child. It wasn't a surprise. And four months after that child is born, she's making a conscious decision to drastically reduce her role in his life. No one's saying she should have had the abortion. But if she's gonna act like a fucking superhero for deciding to raise the kid, maybe she should, you know, raise the kid.
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This is my wife's exact argument. She can't believe a mom would do this. It's one thing to work in Alaska as governor; it's another to spend the next two months flying back and forth across the country when you have a four-month old -- special needs or not. Stay at home dad? Great. Help around the house? Good. But running for VP is a different animal. Where are all the family values and family first GOPers when you need them? She's standing behind a sign that says Country First. Sorry little fella; know where you stand in mom's pecking order.

Moderator1 · Aug 29, 2008

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I'm sure she is one HELL of a governor of Alaska and was probably a great mayor of a town smaller than the audience Obama spoke to in February when he used my office as a changing room.
No doubt she's a quality woman, mom, all that jank.

Is she ready to be president? Yes or no.

Dickens Cider · Aug 29, 2008

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Ad featuring scandal-plagued Ted Stevens endorsing Sarah Palin for governor in 2006 mysteriously vanishes from her campaign Web site.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/palin_ad_starring_ted_stevens.php

markvid · Aug 29, 2008

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93Devil said:

deskslave said:

Is anyone going to be comfortable with her heading the GOP ticket in 2012? Because that's a distinct, indeed likely, possibility.
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Like I said, it will be her vs. Hillary if the GOP wins this time.
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I disagree. Hillary had her chance, it's over.

Simon_Cowbell · Aug 29, 2008

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Moderator1 said:

I hope the first question anyone asks her is, "Are you ready to be President?"

Can she reasonably answer yes?
If she can't, how the hell can anyone vote for a ticket that includes her? You can't discount the VP. That's the next prez.

(and the answer may be yes, I know nothing of this woman but suspect I'm about to hear a lot about her).

IS she ready to be president?
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Can they ask her to spell potato... second?

RedSmithClone · Aug 29, 2008

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deskslave said:

RedSmithClone said:

Everyone on here knows I was a Lieberman guy.

But if no Joe, Sarah Palin was the one I really wanted. I would have been happy with Mitt, but you will all see many bogus attempts by Obama and Biden to knock this choice. Problem is, they are already off base on the release they sent out this morning.

This woman is more than a pretty face.

She is a strong woman. She is a REFORMER in the truest sense of the the word. She bitchslapped her own party on her way to winning and in taking over the governorship of Alaska. She took care of the Stevens types upon taking office. I think she will be McCain's voice on energy concerns. Despite what Obama will have you believe, she is NOT in the pocket of big oil. She again bitchslapped big oil and fellow Republicans over energy issues. She is a woman of the people.

She is a WOMAN who opposes abortion - no more of the "you're a man, you should have no say bullshit."

This is a beautiful person. A mother of five, celebrating 20 years with her husband today.

She is an amazing person.

Now it all makes sense to me why my friend who works for her refused to answer my calls or e-mails over the last three days. By the way, that is a friend of mine, who I worked with in the newspaper business, who is a DEMOCRAT. A Democrat, who respects this woman because although she is a conservative, she is a public servant who doesn't play by party rules. She plays by the people's rules.

I can guarantee to all of you, if the Obama-Biden ticket takes her lightly, they will live to regret it.
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Yeah, yeah. She's a reformer, blah blah blah.

And less than two years after winning, she tries to have her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper for divorcing her sister.
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You best get your facts right on that. This is the investigation the state legislature is looking into as mentioned above. This situation wasn't about him divorcing her sister, it was about this jerkoff physically and mentally abusing her sister. And she would have done the same for any other woman in the state.

Keep spinning kids. Keep spinning.

amraeder · Aug 29, 2008

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Anyway, as far as Palin goes, I have a hell of a lot of respect for her.

It ain't easy to spit in the eye of big oil in Alaska (seeing as that's where the free $1,000+ a year comes from, and man, everyone loves that divy check) but that's how she got elected governor. THE issue was the natural gas pipeline. And her stance was basically she wasn't going to give away Alaska's natural resources for a song, which was basically the plan on the table (some really sweet tax breaks to get oil companies to build a pipeline that was going to net them billions down the road) and she's been an outspoken critic of companies not drilling on land they've leased.

She's one of the smartest people I've met, and she seems to have some damn good political instincts. I think it might be a mistake to underestimate her.

That said, I have no idea if she's ready for prime time yet. I guess we'll see. I've always just assumed her career arc was going to make her a senator some day.

This is without a doubt the only choice that will at least make me rethink my vote. I really like this woman.

Guy_Incognito · Aug 29, 2008

Re: GOP VP thread: So who will McCain name today?

deskslave said:

Guy_Incognito said:

spnited said:

spnited said:

“They’re beyond ecstatic,” said Ralph Reed, the former head of the Christian Coalition. “This is a home run. She is a reformer governor who is solidly pro-life and a person of deep Christian faith. And she is really one of the bright shining new stars in the Republican firmament.”

Ms. Palin is known to conservatives for choosing not to have an abortion after learning that she was carrying a child with Down syndrome. “It is almost impossible to exaggerate how important that is to the conservative faith community,” Mr. Reed said.
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I repeat this post and quote from Ralph Reed.
This is all I need to know about Mrs. Palin.

And if it were so important that she not have an abortion after she learned she was carrying a Down syndrome child, why is it now not important to be home with that 4-month old instead of out campaigning for vice president?
Click to expand...

What the hell is wrong with you? If you plan on working, and having help at home you might as well kill your kid? You can't have meant that.
Click to expand...

She made a conscious decision to have a special-needs child. It wasn't a surprise. And four months after that child is born, she's making a conscious decision to drastically reduce her role in his life. No one's saying she should have had the abortion. But if she's gonna act like a fucking superhero for deciding to raise the kid, maybe she should, you know, raise the kid.
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First, he came pretty damn close to saying what you're saying no one is saying. many people will need help to raise a Downs baby. are you arguing that anyone who does has to put their professional life on hold? For how long? Should she have resigned as governor? Especially if her husband is at home, is it any of your business?

Simon_Cowbell · Aug 29, 2008

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FirstDownPirates said:

Zeke12 said:

I'm really wondering where McCain is going with this.

It seems, as Alma an others have noted, that this choice steps on the only attack message he had going that they thought was working.

I want to know where the message goes from here.
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I will tell you exactly where he's going. Obama's been chipping away at the "maverick" image very effectively by linking McCain with Bush, and now McCain blunts that message to some small (great?) degree by picking Palin out of left field. McCain was always going to live or die based on whether the independents bought his maverickosity, and this is a way he can live.
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This was more "erratic" than "maverick"

Erratic old man.

Dickens Cider · Aug 29, 2008

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RedSmithClone said:

deskslave said:

RedSmithClone said:

Everyone on here knows I was a Lieberman guy.

But if no Joe, Sarah Palin was the one I really wanted. I would have been happy with Mitt, but you will all see many bogus attempts by Obama and Biden to knock this choice. Problem is, they are already off base on the release they sent out this morning.

This woman is more than a pretty face.

She is a strong woman. She is a REFORMER in the truest sense of the the word. She bitchslapped her own party on her way to winning and in taking over the governorship of Alaska. She took care of the Stevens types upon taking office. I think she will be McCain's voice on energy concerns. Despite what Obama will have you believe, she is NOT in the pocket of big oil. She again bitchslapped big oil and fellow Republicans over energy issues. She is a woman of the people.

She is a WOMAN who opposes abortion - no more of the "you're a man, you should have no say bullshit."

This is a beautiful person. A mother of five, celebrating 20 years with her husband today.

She is an amazing person.

Now it all makes sense to me why my friend who works for her refused to answer my calls or e-mails over the last three days. By the way, that is a friend of mine, who I worked with in the newspaper business, who is a DEMOCRAT. A Democrat, who respects this woman because although she is a conservative, she is a public servant who doesn't play by party rules. She plays by the people's rules.

I can guarantee to all of you, if the Obama-Biden ticket takes her lightly, they will live to regret it.
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Yeah, yeah. She's a reformer, blah blah blah.

And less than two years after winning, she tries to have her ex-brother-in-law fired as a state trooper for divorcing her sister.
Click to expand...

You best get your facts right on that. This is the investigation the state legislature is looking into as mentioned above. This situation wasn't about him divorcing her sister, it was about this jerkoff physically and mentally abusing her sister. And she would have done the same for any other woman in the state.

Keep spinning kids. Keep spinning.
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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/ak_gov_says_staffer_pressed_for_troopers_firing.php

Oops.

Perhaps you should get your facts straight.

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