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Grantland so far

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Alma, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I did. So, did they commit themselves to long-form writing or not?
     
  2. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Long-form sports writing? Not particularly. Sure, there are long sports stories there, but as Alma's example shows, they're apparently not the raison d'etre of the site.
     
  3. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    Not even the savor of wordy journalism, especially when it's done the Wright way...
     
  4. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    Looking at site analytics from Alexa.com, the average visitor to Grantland.com spends less than 4 minutes on the site per visit. Not long enough to read any single typical item on the site.

    (I'm stunned to see that the site for our local shitkicker TV station averages 8-plus minutes per average visit.)
     
  5. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Now, that's a telling statistic. I would not have expected that.
     
  6. Cousin Jeffrey

    Cousin Jeffrey Active Member

    Baker's piece was great. I've been reading NYT Vows section for years.
     
  7. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    Too small a sample size to draw too much from, but June to July metrics were all down a smidge.
     
  8. jaredk

    jaredk Member

    Alma's critique said it. A shapeless pudding. Also silly: sabermetrics on weddings? Agreed, Simmons never announced for long-form narrative sports stories. But "Grantland" -- Simmons says he didn't want the name -- suggested writing about sports. I don't look much anymore, but for a while the only real sports story was Chuck Klosterman's on how fast a man can run. He talked to people who knew something -- what a concept, good writing muscled up by reporting. Grantland needs that, not the silly inventions of minds better off left idle.

    The pop culture stuff leaves me cold. It must work for somebody, Simmons I guess. It makes me wonder what name Simmons wanted, because "Grantland" doesn't fit. I doubt he liked "Shapeless, Silly Pudding." How about "Norman"? Norman Lear invented modern TV. Or Lear's character who always put Archie in his place, "Meathead."
     
  9. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    That was more entertaining than anything I've read on Grantland.
     
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Really? You're that caustic about the site? There's nothing there that you've found to have artistic merit?

    Either your expectations were too great, or your reality's too hypercritical.
     
  11. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    I'm disappointed. There are limited opportunities for top writers to engage actual readers in a visible and highly-publicized forum. So here's a blank page, limitless options, and the result just feels lazy and arrogant and silly. Not the writing or the writers, but the complete lack of editorial direction. You have Klosterman and Chris Jones on your staff, do something great and wonderful with that. Feature it, showcase something, and let the frivolous stuff fill in around it. This is a wasted opportunity to do something unique and relevant and smart.
     
  12. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Fair enough ... good answer.
     
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