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Grantland so far

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Alma, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Here's the link.

    www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7189740/eddie-murphy

    Eh.
     
  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I thought that was a pretty comprehensive piece of work, Az. Reason I pulled my post was I didn't realize it was six months old. I don't even remember seeing it when Simmons first had it up there.

    Now, he does come off as a fanboi, sure. But his main premise stands up pretty well -- if you sit back and look at him objectively, Eddie Murphy is an all-time great just by what he did before the age of 25. To put it another way, when you've scaled Everest early in life, there isn't a hell of a lot to do other than fall off the mountaintop once or twice.
     
  3. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    I agree. Heck, Murphy was so ridiculously successful so early that most people probably don't realize it anymore. I'm in my late 20s, and I sometimes forget that he is the most successful SNL alum by far.

    Sidebar: Whoever thought casting Murphy in a movie where he doesn't talk would be a moneymaker is incredibly stupid. Why bother?
     
  4. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    By far? I would say that Bill Murray, while he probably loses a head to head match-up in terms of success, it's certainly not a big enough gap to be considered "by far." Murray has been great in both comedy (Stripes, Caddyshack, Ghostbusters, Groundhog Day, Rushmore) and drama (Lost in Translation, Broken Flowers, Get Low), and he had an Oscar stolen from him for Lost in Translation.

    When you name all Murray's movies, it's way, way closer than people want to believe.
     
  5. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    And what brings it back to "by far" is that Murphy was a classic stand-up comic. As much as we like to remember the greatness of Pryor and Carlin, "Delirious" is the most-repeated, most-popular stand-up movie of all time.
     
  6. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    At least according to one site, Murphy's all-time take is at $3.7 billion, behind only Sam Jackson and Tom Hanks, and just slightly ahead of Harrison Ford. Murray is at 87th, with $1.5 billion. Thanks to Shrek (with also has Murphy), I think Mike Myers is the next closest at $2.2 billion, in 31st.

    http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/actors.mv?actors+ByTG
     
  7. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    What are Bill's 10 best comedies, in any order?

    Meatballs
    Stripes
    Caddyshack
    Ghostbusters
    What About Bob?
    Groundhog Day
    Kingpin
    Rushmore
    The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
    Ed Wood

    How do Murphy's stack up?
     
  8. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member


    Meatballs
    Stripes
    Caddyshack
    Groundhog Day
    Kingpin

    I just don't like Ghostbusters, but Meatballs, Stripes and Caddyshack are a great top three.
     
  9. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    To make a baseball analogy, Murphy is Pedro or Sandy Koufax, in that his peak probably isn't matched by any other pitcher. Murray is more like Hank Aaron, just steadily turning out good blockbusters as an ensemble guy (Ghostbusters and other movies in the 80s and 90s) or very good, artsy movies (Lost in Translation, Broken Flowers and everything else he's done in the past 20 years or so) as a solo guy. The two don't have a ton in common, except that they both seem to be ruggedly individual and don't give a shit what others think of them.
     
  10. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Belushi is Koufax.
     
  11. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    Belushi is Mark Prior. 40+ years after, there isn't a ton on the resume after Animal House, Blues Brothers, the non-coked up SNL skits and (charitably) 1941. Everyone who saw him raved about how awesome he was, but Chris Farley has more of a resume than him.
     
  12. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Chris Farley doesn't have more of a resume than John Belushi.
     
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