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Guillen: Mariotti a "(bleeping) fag"

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by 85bears, Jun 21, 2006.

  1. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    I just heard the whole thing and he basically said Guillen needs to STFU.
     
  2. I wonder what Roberto Alomar thinks of Ozzie Guillen.
     
  3. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    The suspension had nothing to do with what he said. Read the articles; get the facts.
     
  4. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    Well, that's kind of my point. Baseball went down this road with Rocker (and maybe before that). To not tag Guillen with a multiple-game suspension is to break precedent.

    As for Ken Williams, well, he's no stranger to mouthing off, either. Ozzie doesn't lack confidence, to be sure, but with some of the things Williams says in public, it's like OG has been given license to be a loose cannon.
     
  5. Oscar Gamble

    Oscar Gamble New Member

    Comparing Ozzie Guillen to John Rocker is just plain crazy.  Ozzie intent was to question Mariotti's manhood, not to slur gay people.  No one in his right mind is denying this.  Guillen just picked the wrong word.  Ozzie could have called Jay a "pussy" and everyone would have laughed.  Rocker's intent was to slur gay people.  Bringing up AIDS and such and saying he didn't ride the train in NY because he didn't want to be exposed to them.  BIG DIFFERENCE. 

    Ozzie didn't get off scot free.  He's been fined and will be forced to undergo sensitivity training.  A mountain made over a molehill.  All this local and nationwide ink over a slip of the tongue?  Barry Rozner put this incident in the proper prospective in his Saturday column in the Daily Herald:

    http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/rozner.asp?id=202250 


    How much coverage has their been about Brett Myers being arrested Friday for assaulting his wife?  Now there's a real issue that columnists should tackle.  Violence against women by athletes.

    BTW for those who want to punish Guillen even more, were you demanding that Dusty Baker (the other Chicago baseball manager) be punished when he had his Al Campanis-like moment and gave his views last year on black players being better suited for playing in the heat and white players are better suited for cold weather?   Was Dusty even fined or ordered to take sensitivity training?
     
  6. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    That column had so much promise.

    Too bad it didn't deliver the goods.

    And I took a Zoloft pill once, thinking it was Zantac. The allergies were still around, but I had other things on my mind.
     
  7. Chuck~Taylor

    Chuck~Taylor Active Member

    John Rocker sounds off on this situation ::) . http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2499926
     
  8. Doug Gottlieb was being an idiot about this on ESPN radio this morning, He claimed Ozzie's quote was "off the record." Is there ANY evidence of that?
     
  9. Almost_Famous

    Almost_Famous Active Member

    So Doug Gottleib does more than just college bball now?
     
  10. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    You know, we could go round and round with this. If you're going to question someone's manhood by using a slur against gays, aren't you by extension impugning their manhood? And give me a fucking break about the slip of the tongue. Guillen has spend enough time in this country to know better. And as a mater of fact, I did think Baker should have been punished in some way, if for no other reason than to prove there is no double standard. But clearly, there is. Minorities can say any damn thing they want. Which is why MLB should never have gotten in the business of policing speech in the first place.
     
  11. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    OK, it's all straight now. We know what happens, thanks to Joe and Jon on ESPN.

    It's us.

    Yep, all those reporters around, asking questions. Poor Ozzie gets baited because they're looking for something controversial. And poor Ozzie just has to stop taking the bait.

    Fuckin' media.
     
  12. markvid

    markvid Guest

    Since ESPN is carrying Marlins/Yanks in my market, my TV's life just may have been saved.
     
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