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Guns, the NRA, the constitution and senseless shootings

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Johnny Dangerously, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    I heard a 9 and a .22.
     
  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Lifted from another thread...

    http://wanusmaximus.livejournal.com/

    That site is not owned by the shooter. The owner has posted tonight denying he's the shooter.
     
  3. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Indeed.

    This is proof positive that the laws must change. But this kid didn't learn about violence from us; he just gained acces to weapons because some states are fucking stupid when it comes to gun laws.

    And, writing irish: absolutely, decades of violence. That never get talked about until some a-hole goes on a shooting spree on a college campus. As the Imus stuation showed, and as this shows, we are a sadly reactive society. Nothing gets the ire going until there's a major incident; then the screaming follows. And often, dies down before change can be affected.
     
  4. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    Yes, you can. It's like spraying for roaches. You get some here and there.
     
  5. SportBlogNow

    SportBlogNow Member

    I just wrote this...it comes from the heart.

    I don’t know where to start.

    The hardest part is thinking that this actually happened. How could it happen? We sit here and read about it, write about it, and watch it on the news, but it’s difficult to actually take in the fact that a human being preemptively decided to enter a classroom building, chain the doors from the inside, and walk room to room murdering innocent students.

    Why? Why would a human being do such a thing? What could possibly compel anyone to commit such a heinous act? One thing I know is this: It was not video games, it was not hip-hop, and it was not television violence. These remedial excuses discussed by the media are not only absurd, but are borderline offensive to the victims and their families. It is not an acceptable explanation to say that a human being was driven to murder 33 people because they took Grand Theft Auto a little too seriously.

    No, this incident and those of similar nature are results of much larger problems in our society. God only knows what drove the young man to do what he did, but one could speculate. Americans work longer hours for lower wages than all other "civilized" countries, not to mention the shorter vacation time. This economic situation undoubtedly contributes to our high divorce rates, suicide rates, and collective alcohol problems. Coupled with our constant pursuit of perfection and our obsession with masculinity, a clearer picture begins to form.

    Let us not forget how easy it is to own a gun. Legally, almost any U.S. citizen over the age of 18 can conceal a firearm. Illegally, anyone who knows where to look can find a gun if the price is right. Screw the second amendment, why is it legal for anyone to own anything designed for killing humans? Okay, fine, inside the home, I can see how owning a gun to protect your family is okay. However, this doesn’t discount that fact that it is legal for registered owners to carry a gun in public, or the fact that semi-automatic weapons are produced and sold daily.

    Obviously, taken as an isolated incident it doesn’t matter why it happened, it only matters that it happened. Now, 33 people are dead, many more are injured, and hundreds of families are destroyed. Viewed on a larger spectrum, however, why it happened does matter. This isn’t the first time, and it most certainly won’t be the last. Nothing we as a society can do will change those facts, but perhaps we can curtail the frequency of these tragic incidents over time.

    Exactly why this shooting occurred, we will never know. We may find out the trigger event (i.e. a bad breakup, getting picked on, etc…), but we won’t know what was going on inside that person's head as he planned to kill his fellow classmates and human beings. No matter what the exact circumstances, events like these make it clear to me that as a society we need to change.

    But don’t expect that to happen. Instead, expect to hear how Snoop Dogg and 50 Cent, Grand Theft Auto and Doom, and The Matrix and The Sopranos influence people to shoot up there classrooms (Lets hear them make this argument for adults killing their co-workers. Are investment traders listening to G-Unit these days?). Expect some sensible newsmen and journalists to say or write something along the lines of what I've said. But, don’t expect change.

    After all, with the hours we work and the pay we get, who has time for change?
     
  6. shit, that's what I meant.
     
  7. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I have removed both of my posts, but I am not entirely sure the blogs aren't real. The sources I have contradict what this blog revision is saying. But, at any rate, my apologies.
     
  8. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    Our republic is built, fundamentally, on STATES RIGHTS.
     
  9. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    And sometimes, the states are morons, and a quality federal government needs to lean on them to shape the hell up.

    With any luck, we'll get such a government sometime soon . . . .
     
  10. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    You know, some hysterics could claim that the liberal majority set this shit up just to make their argument for gun control.

    Not saying that, but.....it's equally hysteric to blame this on the existence of the NRA.

    If you liberals would quit letting criminals off and your liberal social workers let psychos go unhandled, that would too make a hell of a difference.
     
  11. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    WHO SENDS the representatives to FEDERAL government?

    The states.

    Weak.

    You want to shape something up, start with your judiciary.
     
  12. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

     
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