Hatfields and McCoys (History Channel)

Hank_Scorpio · May 30, 2012

Ratings from Part 1 were pretty good.

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=732198&ocid=rr-tv-news

Brooklyn Bridge · May 30, 2012

Ben_Hecht said:

Double J said:

albert77 said:

Double J said:

My parents watch "Pawn Stars" on occasion and I have no idea why. The old guy is a knob and that idiot Chumlee or whatever he's called is both annoying and dumb enough to make the "Jersey Shore" cast members look like candidates for a Stephen Hawking fellowship.
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I'll watch "Pawn Stars," every once in awhile when I get tired of the L&O: SUV or NCIS reruns my wife watches. Rick (the old guy's son who runs the show) is OK, and they'll periodically get something unusual come that piques the interest.

"American Pickers," is all right, although I'd like to see less of the two goobs in the van and more of the good-looking brunette with all the tats and the big titties.
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Rick is fine, and so is his son. It's Rick's father and the lump who annoy me.
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As previously noted, if I walked in there with a piece and drew Corey, I'd walk right out. The fat load's a predatory negotiator who frankly preys on the desperate, and the ensuing conversation would likely be nasty, brutish and short.
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I will take Hardcore Pawn any day over Pawn Stars.

hondo · May 30, 2012

Ben_Hecht said:

Frankly, the trailers look disastrous, and it's harder than ever to trust Costner in anything. I wish Godspeed to all who soldier on.
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Help me with something: why do people hate Costner so much. I've pretty much liked most of what he's been in (except Waterworld and a couple of the chick flicks).
Why the hate?

Bob Cook · May 30, 2012

Double J said:

My parents watch "Pawn Stars" on occasion and I have no idea why. The old guy is a knob and that idiot Chumlee or whatever he's called is both annoying and dumb enough to make the "Jersey Shore" cast members look like candidates for a Stephen Hawking fellowship.
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Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · May 30, 2012

hondo said:

Ben_Hecht said:

Frankly, the trailers look disastrous, and it's harder than ever to trust Costner in anything. I wish Godspeed to all who soldier on.
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Help me with something: why do people hate Costner so much. I've pretty much liked most of what he's been in (except Waterworld and a couple of the chick flicks).
Why the hate?
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Because he's the same in every movie.
I like Costner... But all his characters are the same ... Kevin Costner.

Ben_Hecht · May 30, 2012

hondo said:

Ben_Hecht said:

Frankly, the trailers look disastrous, and it's harder than ever to trust Costner in anything. I wish Godspeed to all who soldier on.
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Help me with something: why do people hate Costner so much. I've pretty much liked most of what he's been in (except Waterworld and a couple of the chick flicks).
Why the hate?
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Hate's strong . . . but he really hasn't grown, and in anything outside of a ball-sports movie, he's like a fish out of water. I liked The Untouchables because the set-pieces are great and the supporting cast was super.

hondo · May 30, 2012

Ben_Hecht said:

hondo said:

Ben_Hecht said:

Frankly, the trailers look disastrous, and it's harder than ever to trust Costner in anything. I wish Godspeed to all who soldier on.
Click to expand...

Help me with something: why do people hate Costner so much. I've pretty much liked most of what he's been in (except Waterworld and a couple of the chick flicks).
Why the hate?
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Hate's strong . . . but he really hasn't grown, and in anything outside of a ball-sports movie, he's like a fish out of water. I liked The Untouchables because the set-pieces are great and the supporting cast was super.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. Did everyone despite Eastwood because he played the same guy for a number of years?

UNCGrad · May 30, 2012

Part II is online under the link for Part I.

http://www.history.com/shows/hatfields-and-mccoys/videos/hatfields-and-mccoys-part-1#hatfields-and-mccoys-part-1

Not bad for any short-timers on the job this week...

Buck · May 30, 2012

Ben_Hecht said:

Double J said:

albert77 said:

Double J said:

My parents watch "Pawn Stars" on occasion and I have no idea why. The old guy is a knob and that idiot Chumlee or whatever he's called is both annoying and dumb enough to make the "Jersey Shore" cast members look like candidates for a Stephen Hawking fellowship.
Click to expand...

I'll watch "Pawn Stars," every once in awhile when I get tired of the L&O: SUV or NCIS reruns my wife watches. Rick (the old guy's son who runs the show) is OK, and they'll periodically get something unusual come that piques the interest.

"American Pickers," is all right, although I'd like to see less of the two goobs in the van and more of the good-looking brunette with all the tats and the big titties.
Click to expand...

Rick is fine, and so is his son. It's Rick's father and the lump who annoy me.
Click to expand...

As previously noted, if I walked in there with a piece and drew Corey, I'd walk right out. The fat load's a predatory negotiator who frankly preys on the desperate, and the ensuing conversation would likely be nasty, brutish and short.
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GF gets angry at the show for what they pay. I don't get it.
It's a business with overhead and associated costs.

DanOregon · May 30, 2012

Seems pretty clear that everything is prearranged. You tell the producers you have an item, you give details about the item, they arrange to have an expert available to evaluate it - and give Rick a chance to act like he knows what he's talking about when someone comes in with an old cigar box with a former President on it.
What always amazes me is that people don't figure to try and target their sale to a specific group that might value the thing more highly than a walk-in pawn shop in Vegas. But maybe they wouldn't get a free trip to Vegas out of it.

As for H&M, I liked the first two hours, but this is really just hillbilly kills hillbilly, hillbilly's family avenges (rinse, lather repeat, ad nauseum)

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · May 30, 2012

DanOregon said:

Seems pretty clear that everything is prearranged. You tell the producers you have an item, you give details about the item, they arrange to have an expert available to evaluate it - and give Rick a chance to act like he knows what he's talking about when someone comes in with an old cigar box with a former President on it.
What always amazes me is that people don't figure to try and target their sale to a specific group that might value the thing more highly than a walk-in pawn shop in Vegas. But maybe they wouldn't get a free trip to Vegas out of it.

As for H&M, I liked the first two hours, but this is really just hillbilly kills hillbilly, hillbilly's family avenges (rinse, lather repeat, ad nauseum)
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It's beyond prearranged.
Some of the stuff isn't even being sold. It's already owned by the historical society which has it's personnel come in and appraise the stuff.

Prearranged is one thing... This is faked.

I watched a rerun of History's (cable's newest reality television network) Pawn Stars the other night. (Season 2; Episode 5). In this episode a man named Rod brought in — what he "believed" to be — his 1960 Les Paul Custom guitar. Rod claimed to have gotten the guitar during the 1980s while touring with bands Toto and Triumph.
I got curious as to just who he was in relation to those two bands, so I hit the internet to investigate. What I found was not exactly a surprise, even if it was a disappointment.
The segment was completely staged. The guitar used in the show belonged to local Las Vegas vintage guitar store, Cowtown Guitars. The "customer" was played by an employee of that same store. And the "expert" brought in to appraise it was yet another Cowtown Guitar employee/manager. (Exposé credit goes to the guitarphiles in the Les Paul Forums.)
The customer named Rod in the Pawn Stars episode is actually Rod Miller of Cowtown Guitars in Las Vegas, where he is employed at as a luthier. How long he has worked there, I do not know. But I found evidence of his employment there fourteen months before the first episode of Pawn Stars ever aired.
Jesse, the guitar expert in the episode that identified the guitar as being from 1972, can be found on Cowtown Guitar's website as one of the store's principal contacts.
With respect to the guitar, as of March 2011, it was still listed (as sold) on Cowtown Guitar's website. Note the same identical buckle rash in the website photo as in the episode clip below. (See Exhibit B above.)
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http://centraltendencies.com/2011/03/pawn-stars-is-fake/

Buck · May 30, 2012

I know its staged, but the offers usually seem fair.
If I'm going to seel the item for $500, I can't give you $400.
I need room to cover my costs and make money. I'm a business owner, not a collector.

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