Hillary Clinton -- Like her or hate her ...

Sorry, this simply isn't true.

As for her time as first lady... she was immediately placed in charge of health care reform, despite a distinct lack of qualifications in that regard.  It didn't go well.  She may not have been the first First Lady to have significant input on policy matters, but she was essentially put in charge of a major policy issue.

And it's not as simple as "accusing her of using her Senator position to springboard to President."  She moved to New York for the sole purpose of running for Senator, and her entire time is office has been posturing for a presidential run.

And JR got it exactly right - she has no rapport or connection with the public at all.  She comes across as horribly elitist and always has.  She's virtually the polar opposite of her husband in that regard.  He is as comfortable in a bowling alley as he is in a state dinner.  She isn't.  She can't even pretend effectively.  Bill didn't have to.

And she absolutely is without a moral center, and she will say anything to any audience to try to ingratiate herself, with new clue how absurd it comes across.  (My personal favorite - telling a Black audience "The Senate is run like a plantation - and I KNOW you know what I'm talkin' about.")

If it's McCain vs. Hillary in 2008, McCain might carry 48 states.  The Democratic Party leadership needs to figure out that there really are voters outside of New York and California and a very large percentage of them can't stand her.

 

JR, Bill himself used the name Bubba.

 

Point taken.

I apologize.

But she's not the first politician to take advantage of her political connections, albeit a pretty solid one.

And is she the first politician to move to another part of the country to further her political ambitions?

Just askin' because it happens here all the time. (Hello, Michael Ignatieff!)

 

JR,

It's pretty rare at the truly national level in the U.S. Hillary and Bobby Kennedy are the only examples I can think of off the top of my head (other than Bill Weld's aborted bid for NY guv....why do these carpetbaggers flock to NY?). A much more likely scenario is this: local boy grows up, goes to college and goes to DC as someone's staffer.....hears that local congressional seat is going to be opening up/the current incumbent is weak, so he moves back into the district and runs for the seat. What made Hillary's run so brazen at the time was that she had no connection to NY. She was a Chicago girl who had spent her adult life in Little Rock.

 

Well, almost no connection.



;D

 

Here here! Though I'm more on the right, I did kind of like Bill as a person. He's a likeable guy and has a way with people that Hillary lacks.

 

I'd hit it...

Oh, sorry, wrong thread...

 

Nothing to apologize for.

 

Have you no shame, man?

 

This the same BS you'll hear from liberals if she ever does run.  America would have the gender card shoved down its throat as a strategy to avoid talking about her record and qualifications, or lack thereof.

 

She looks as comfortable wearing a Yankees hat as Ashy Larry would...