How do we feel about the Chron guys now?

Kindred and Ragu,

That is part of the problem with the Chronicle. Yes, Rains is a "hired gun", but that makes it even worse for the Chronicle because they knew the truth about Ellerman being the leaker of the transcripts and they still promoted Rains' rants to look in other directions. Nobody except Ellerman has been reported to have leaked the transcripts to the Chronicle, period. Many types of evidence have been leaked and likely from both sides. What we do know is that so far the only actual GJ transcript leaks came from Ellerman and nothing has ever been reported to the contrary. Other newspapers did not know who leaked the transcripts, so they are not in the same boat as the Chronicle as far as promoting Rains' rants.

creamora

 

Ragu says, "It's not the way it SHOULD work." Says who, you? That's your opinion and that's all it is. Others here have a right to have an opinion was well. The case is far from over and it's likely to have more twists and turn. Your opinion is certainly not the gold standard as you often present it to be. Let's simply agree to disagree regarding whether to just focus on the "big picture" or go after "more details" that may be important. You would like to divert the attention away from the questionable behavior of the Chronicle reporters and I would like to put their feet to the fire and find out a bit more before I make a final decision as to whether they are good guys or bad buys. I'm still open, but I would like some more answers, period.

creamora

 

Ragu says, "You give us those posts under the guise of truth, but the thing you refuse to talk about is the truth."

That's because I'm still in search of the truth and you think you already know the truth. All you've really got is your strong opinion that may or may not be right. You don't know the complete truth and neither does anybody else at this point. There is a lot that we still don't know. Stop trying to prevent people from asking the tough questions. I thought that was supposed to be the responsibility of a good journalist. Is it not?

creamora

 

Ragu --
Do you need to call a 24-second yet?

 

Ragu--You are going to blow out a keyboard on these posts.

Look, this is a story that may lose steam among the general public (if there was any steam to begin with), but people in the business are going to wonder and wrestle with it for a long time.

Seems safe to assume that creamora has a lot of answers (and perhaps an agenda) that he (or she?) just isn't willing to share. But clearly, this is one of the more knowledgeable people on this thread, and I wish I knew how to access some of that insight.

 

I used to care, now I only want to see Ragu and Creamora fight.
Some kind of steel cage match, or maybe mixed martial arts.
Do some pay-per-view and make some money.

 

JayFarrar,

OK. I'll fight The Big Ragu, but only if he's willing to be tested for steroids.

creamora

 

Let's get ready to rumble! Combat cage size? Bare knuckles? Weapons? Nude? When is the
weigh-in?

 

Let's see, for one, Ragu spaghetti sauce is excellent. He's also self-described as no-meat eating, regular runner, who doesn't mind going toe-to-toe with burly construction type guys.
So we can surmise that Ragu is healthy, physcially fit and fearless.
Creamora has given no clues, outside of a willingness to fight nude, but is full of a certain amount of insider information on the steroids mess.
Hmmm... if I was laying odds, I'd give the advantage to Ragu.