I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me.

You know what we're hearing, loud and clear?

Don't get out of the car. Ever. Indianapolis Metro Police Department be damned, if you get out of the car, the media will run half-truths, the community will riot, the brass will turn their backs and the politicians will run the bus over you, again and again and again in a constant loop.

In the urban centers, police work is done and the Law of the Jungle prevails. Protect yourself and your job. We never thought we'd have to type that.

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/posts/3803103/

 

I didn't make an argument.

I posted without comment because it's interesting.

 

I got caught in two police checkpoints on my way home from work last night. I live less than 10 miles from my work.

 

What's the interesting part then?

 

You're not required to find it interesting.

 

Volunteer fireman is still a fireman.

The key is certified law enforcement. What qualifies as certified varies from state to state.

I'm aware of plenty of situations where ex military with lucrative jobs work as reserve deputies or cops because they were bomb disposal or snipers. Volunteer doesn't always mean free, sometimes it means they get paid per call.

I don't know the guys background but a certified cop, volunteer or not, can carry a gun, if they so choose.

 

The employer would still have the right to enforce a "gun free" workplace.

 

This took about 10 seconds to find:

An Elkhart County, Ind. Sheriff’s reserve deputy was fired from his job as a school grounds keeper after he brought his gun on school property.

Reserve Deputy Rick Ball went into work at Concord Community Schools on Jan. 28 while the schools were closed due to the weather, according to WSBT-TV.

During his shift, Ball was involved in a car accident in a school vehicle -- which is when his boss found out he was carrying a gun.

His supervisor reported the firearm to the school superintendent, who told Ball at the end of the week he would either be fired or forced to resign.

"I feel like I've done nothing wrong," Ball told the news station. "If a situation would arise where we have an active shooter or something, we have to be prepared because I'm required to go in and help take care of it."

http://www.officer.com/news/11309685/indiana-reserve-deputy-loses-job-at-school-after-carrying-gun

 

The people who accept the responsibility to uphold and enforce the law SHOULD be held accountable for their actions. Also, don't blame or take it out on the people you're serving just because some dickless police chief or politician doesn't get your back. Frankly, I'd question the intelligence of people who think politicians WILL back them up in any given circumstance.

Also, clerical work is built into most police officer shifts anyway. I mean, how long do you think it takes to write a normal police report? If you don't want them to spend extra time doing paperwork, hire some clerical folks to produce a use-of-force report, which would use mostly the same information from the regular report. It ain't rocket science.

 

I'm not making the argument.

Cops are making the argument.

It might be a shitty argument, but if that's the attitude, then there's a problem that needs to be addressed.

 

Meh. The school board says officers are allowed to carry firearms, but it needs to be approved ahead of time. Seems reasonable to me. And there is also some thought that this deputy didn't meet the criteria, which as has been pointed out, varies by state. And there is also a dispute over whether this guy was let go for leaving the gun unattended.

 

Right. It needs to be approved.

By definition, if something needs to be approved, then approval can also be withheld.

An employer does not have to let you bring your gun to work.