I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me.

I looked up the laws for my state.

Certified law enforcement means you have graduated from police academy and are currently affiliated with or retired from a department. That would include both fulltime, part time and reserve or volunteer officers.

Certified officers can always carry a weapon anywhere but federal property. The law also addresses schools and businesses that are posted with no weapons signs. That does not apply to certified officers.

Certified officers must also carry photo ID from their department indicating that they are in good standing.

 

I really tried to give you guys a chance to think about the argument you were making, but you seem determined to make it.

The law means that if Applebee's has a no gun sign at the door, and you're a reserve deputy, you can still bring your gun into the restaurant.

And, if the manager comes over to you to tell you it's a "gun free" zone, you can explain this to him, and he's not going to throw you out of the restaurant.

Now, if you are a reserve deputy and you take a job as a waiter in an Applebee's, do you really think this means you can carry your gun on you while you work, regardless of company policies? Really?

 

Do you know what Applebee's company policy is? I sure don't.

 

Why am I engaged in this nonsense? What good will come of it? And I'm guessing you'll shift the goal posts anyway.

http://www.jsvapplebees.com/docs%5Chourlymanual.pdf

J.S. Ventures, Inc. strives to provide a safe and healthy work environment. In keeping with this objective, J.S. Ventures, Inc. has adopted a Weapons-Free Workplace Policy. All persons, except authorized law enforcement officers , who enter J.S. Ventures, Inc. property are prohibited from carrying any weapon as defined below, regardless of whether the person is licensed to carry the weapon or not. This Policy applies to all persons, including without limitation, any and all employees, guests, vendors and contractors on J.S. Ventures, Inc. property. Employees are also prohibited from carrying a weapon while engaged in the duties of the employee’s employment, whether they are on J.S. Ventures, Inc. property or not. This Policy also prohibits weapons at any J.S. Ventures, Inc. sponsored events. Any exceptions to this Policy shall be made at the sole discretion of the Vice President of Operations.

 

The guy who brought the knife was bringing it to what he thought was a fight where no one else would have a weapon. IOW, a typical Muslim coward.

 

CNN saying officer shot in Ferguson. Not killed.

 

This is a "typical" Muslim?

 

That's the difference between the pros and the amateurs.

 

As the goal posts seem to be shifting, to borrow a line, I've lost sight of the point but to just get things straight: If state law says one thing, and company policy says something else, company policy is the default position?

As to the hypothetical waiter at Applebees, if said waiter had the financial means to take off from their jobs and go to police academy for six months, at their own expense and pay for all their own equipment, along with passing the necessary background checks and have the trust of the local chief or sheriff to get them the appointment to the academy in the first place and have them sworn is as officers of the law with all the rights and privileges that comes with working in law enforcement, then, I suppose, they wouldn't be working as waiters at Applebees in the first place.

Of course, if said waiter was packing, he wouldn't be wearing it on his hip on plain sight in the first place. It would be worn with an ankle holster or concealed in some other fashion.

I doubt my state has more than 50 total certified officers who are reserves just because it so unlikely to have a person who has the background to pull it off.

My points remain the same regardless of the goal posts.

1) The law in my state is very clear that no gun laws don't apply to certified cops on or off duty as they can carry their weapon with them almost anywhere they want to go.

2) Cops have an enormous set of powers given to them that the public doesn't understand.

 

Wait, do you think this contradicts what I said?

It says exactly what I said.

 

I'll bet you $800 billion that we don't have to wait two months and counting for a report on this incident.

 

The outpouring of concern for the shot cop is really touching.