In the NYT, Amy Winehouse > James Gandolfini

There's always a chance too that the NYT decided long ago that putting Winehouse on A1 was kind of ridiculous. Much of this argument is an offshoot of the "well this is the way we've always done it" theory, which I think we all agree has proved to be a terrible way to run a newspaper.

And also ...

Truth, more than ever.

 

I've gotta agree with Orville - I heard the news and my reaction was basically, "Oh, how about that... <and on with my day>" I didn't have HBO and have never watched the Sopranos, but I don't know him from any role beyond that. This isn't Daniel Day-Lewis we're talking about. I think a front-page teaser and inside placement is fine.

 

I've never seen The Sopranos, but I've seen him in plenty of movies and know enough to know that his death is a big deal.

Not sure I'd call him a titan, but it was/is big news. A1? Meh. Probably not.

 

If we were finding out Tony Soprano is dead, now that's a no-brainer 1A.

 

I've heard this argument more than once today. That's what my brother, who is anti-HBO, anti-indie movies and music, texted back t ome: "Nobody I know even watched that show. Just people like you."

Keep in mind that this was the same guy who didn't think Bob Dylan's death would be an A1 NYT story.

 

It wasn't an argument. You should have read the rest of what I posted.

Just looked. I threw a question mark at the end, for some reason. It was a statement. My bad.

I know he was a huge deal. Just not enough for 1A, in my opinion.

 

Sorry. Poor wording. I don't think that you were making an argument. But I've heard people make that statement as part of an argument today, i.e. that the show was a critical darling and extremely popular among a passionate fan base, but its reach was not very big.

 

Well, that's stupid.

And really....after thinking about it, I think he falls in the "It's cool if they put him on 1A, but I wouldn't really give a shit if they didn't" category.

For some reason, I remember him most for his small role in Crimson Tide and for his role in Last Castle.

 

Its reach wasn't very big, though. The finale was watched by 11.9 million people, which at the time was an average to poor showing compared with a network show. That was the average weekly viewership number for Law & Order: SVU that season.

 

But in terms of the big cable shows these days, that's a solid viewership.

5.39 million watched the recent season finale of Game of Thrones.
2.98 million is the peak for Breaking Bad.
12.42 million for the recent season finale of The Walking Dead.

 

No way is he worth A1. Heck, Chase has a better shot down the line.

And Dick, "Yes. Absolutely. No question. Without a doubt. Inarguable." is below your usual level of intellectual rigor. A few of us are a'doubtin'. Defend your view.

 

Oh I know. And for pay cable, it's astounding.

But as a cultural icon, he might be overstated by those "in the know."