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In the NYT, Amy Winehouse > James Gandolfini

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Dick Whitman, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. H.L. Mencken

    H.L. Mencken Member

    Once again, we're not talking about mainstream cultural influence here. We're talking about the world of New York Times readers, which may not even know Two And A Half Men exists.

    But I look forward to more strong takes on Gandolfini's relevance as an artist from people who might have seen him in Crimson Tide.
     
  2. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    Yeah, he was super convincing as a right-handed Joe Jackson.
     
  3. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    I buy into H.L. Mencken's argument to some degree. I wouldn't have had a problem with it on A1. But I think he's overstating it quite a bit. The Sopranos was riding the coattails of other hugely influential dramas of the 1990s. It wasn't the first artistic drama ever.
     
  4. H.L. Mencken

    H.L. Mencken Member

    Alma seems conditioned to believe that everything in movies is, and always will be, better. Which is fine. David Chase believes the same, actually.

    It's just false. And far more snobbish than I could ever be.

    David Simon, David Chase, Vince Gilligan, David Milch -- these guys are actually telling stories as opposed to jerking off their film school pals.
     
  5. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Heck, to take Mencky Jimy's argument, and stereotyping of NYT readers, to their extreme, why would those readers be slumming on HBO, when there's CNBC, public television, BBC America and the History Channel around? And heck, why would these folks even be watching TV? They'd be at the opera, holding a late board of directors meeting or having a cocktail party in the Hamptons.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    CEOs do not watch TV. They don't have time. They get up at 7 in the morning. Did you miss that thread?
     
  7. H.L. Mencken

    H.L. Mencken Member

    Of course I'm overstating it! That's what I do! Ever read what I wrote about William Jennings Bryan during the Scopes Monkey Trial?

    Effing Puritans.
     
  8. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    You would think that after the first five years of no one crashing through the ice and drowning the audience would get that it ain't gonna' happen. Then again, this is a country that watches poker on television.
     
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  9. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Ohhh, and you were so close too.
     
  10. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Where did Jean Stapleton's obit run in the NYT? If that didn't make A1, no way Gandolfini does.
     
  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Not everything is better in movies. TV does comedy better.
     
  12. beanpole

    beanpole Member

    Page A22. I don't know if she got the Page 1 refer or how it was played online the day before, though.
     
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