Indefensible.

I think the question you've gotta ask yourself as president is, "Is this bill fair to big tobacco and insurance companies?" It gets pretty simple after that.

 

So if a family is making too much for medicaid, and too little to afford proper health insurance, your resposnse is...too bad?

And according to your response, the govt. shouldn't buy health insurance for anybody. That means families that are dirt poor (for whatever reason) should not be able to get insurance.

That's cold.

 

FH, I won't disagree that when it comes to the shadiness of national politics, the press is often part of the problem.

 

Tony, since you bring up the Constitution, where in the Constitution does it say that?

 

First of all, the money is given out by the states, so it's not federal money. Also, states enroll children in private health insurance programs.

Secondly, it costs more money to pay for uninsured people's costs. If someone breaks their leg or needs surgery and they don't have insurance, guess who pays for it? You and me. Our rates go up. It's just like when uninsured drivers get in a wreck. We all end up paying.

Of course there's the other issue that parents who don't have insurance for their kids are less likely to take them to the doctor, which would lead to even worse health problems for their kids. But since you don't give a shit, that means nothing to you.

 

No, that's freedom. There are basically two choices in this world: Socialism or Capitalism. You seem to think that Socialism is the more compassionate of the two.

You apparently believe that government simply has all this money and it should spend it on the poor. But the truth is, government doesn't have a dime until it takes it from other citizens. If government didn't confiscate so damn much money from everyone and then waste it, private charities would be getting a whole lot more backing.

The best a government that promotes freedom should guarantee is equal opportunity. It can never guarantee equal outcome. Now socialist governments do guarantee equal outcome. And it's always equal misery. That is what you want? I seem to recall an awful lot of Soviets and Cubans seeking to get here. I don't recall many seeking to move from here to there (with the brief exception of Lee Harvey Oswald).

 

No they didn't think that, but I'd love for those congressman to explain why providing healthcare for American children who can't get it elsewhere is a lower priority to them than hundreds of billions spent on ridiculous pork and to connected private contractors in Iraq for work that could have been done by our own military for a small fraction of the cost. The fact that they voted for that shit but opposed this suggests that they don't care enough about children's health care. Hey, as long as their kids have it, why worry about others.

 

The constitution doesn't specifically spell out a lot of things that the government takes care of: public education, money to help pay for infrastructure, etc.

Just another part of your argument that's complete and total bs.

I'll now wait for you to change the subject and throw out another charge that we'll discredit, which will lead you to change the subject again, throw out another charge, etc.

 

And around and round we go...

You're right. The government should look to pay for whatever it spends. Like, I don't know, maybe raise the cigaratte tax by $0.61 to help pay for this S-CHIP legislation? Hey, that would be a great idea.

 

To prove the audacity of Hate Radio, last night while driving home I was searching the AM dial for baseball. I landed on a station for a brief moment, and heard some Hate Radio jockey say (and I'm only paraphrasing slightly): "You can't afford health insurance? Too bad. If you need medical attention, just do what the illegals do and go to the emergency room."

Just disgraceful.

 

The Constitution is a document that limits the power of the government. The only powers the government has are the ones explicitly stated. That being the case, I don't have to show you where in the Constitution the government can't take my money and give it to others. Rather, it's incumbent on you show me where it says in the Constitution that the government CAN do that. And since it doesn't, you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

So to answer his question about where it says that it's supposed to fund national defense? Oh that's right you don't have an answer.

Keep trying. It's really entertaining.