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Indiana Gov. signs "religious freedom" bill into law

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Mar 26, 2015.

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  1. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    This is so fucking good it's a shame not many people will get it. I laughed quite heartily.
     
  2. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    I'm sure this has already been brought up (I haven't even looked at this thread other than this page), but is this an example of what you're talking about?

    Washington state florist fined for refusing to service gay wedding| Reuters

    The key part here is that the couple have been her customers for years, so she caters to gay customers. But she wouldn't take part in a wedding ceremony because of her beliefs.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    "My beliefs" is not a catchall phrase that makes it OK to treat people poorly.

    When you find yourself doing that, keep in mind that it's perfectly fair game for others to 1) let you know how much your beliefs suck, and 2) speak out against your bigotry.
     
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  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I know the stock answer is that it's different, but I really don't see how the no-gay-marriage hang-up would be any different from not providing a service for, say, an interracial marriage -- which was also thought in some circles to violate the religious beliefs of some Christians.
     
  5. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Hero.
     
  6. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    Then he'd be within his rights to discriminate. Although I asked the question about how he holds himself up earlier, I didn't really think it through well. A freelancer, even one who advertises, isn't offering a service that could be considered a public accommodation and so he wouldn't be in violation of any civil rights legislation - at least not any of the ones I've looked at - by refusing to take a particular gig.

    That's different from the baker who has an establishment in which people come into his bakery and order or a cake or a wedding venue operator who allows people to use her farm for weddings.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Well, Indiana is still trying to ban gay marriage, so there's quite a few slights right there.
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    T, the point isn't Christians treating gays poorly, it's a law giving any homophobic jerk the ability to act out and claim it's for religion. Plus, I fail to see the need for a law protecting one of our most basic rights as Americans -- the freedom to order mushrooms on a pizza.
     
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  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    There might not have been a Revolutionary War had the British kept the tax on tea, but given a tax break for pizzas.
     
  10. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    There ya go. Now that's a well-formed post.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Indeed. It's not cool to be a homophobic jerk. ... unless its "for religion."
     
  12. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

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