Indiana student sues over school graduation prayer

You can pray in school as long as it is not sponsored by the school.

 

No, Junkie, when I pray, I pray to any god who may be listening. I usually have to throw in a "Hey, if you come through on this, I will make an honest attempt to learn more about religion." One came through, and I'm starting to do the work I said I would.

How do you slam JR for making it personal, then call me her majesty? What did I say to you that was personal on this thread? I've honestly never heard of someone praying and having it not directed to a higher power. Ever.

 

A public school can't legally further a religion by having a prayer. Simple, red-letter law. And "pussified" society? A society in which gays are coming out, and demanding the right to be married, knowing that any one of them could be the next Matthew Shepherd? I'd say asserting a right, in whatever context, is an act of fortitude. Some folks just haven't been the same since the Marlboro man died of cancer.

 

Then that's not praying. That's hoping. But I see your point.

However, it's not pertinent here. I'm willing to put a lot of money on the fact no one's going to stand up there and say "I pray we succeed in life." If so, it would be the first one at a graduation.

 

Do a lot of schools still have a separate baccalaureate ceremony? My high school did. Someone rents the football field, and you can have all the God stuff you want. (The school renting out space to a religious group is okie-dokie, as long as it doesn't discriminate against different religions.) Those of us, like me, who didn't want to be a part of it didn't go, while those who wanted a religious ceremony linked with graduation did. You didn't have caps and gowns or diplomas. Problem solved?

 

My school had a baccalaureate ceremony...and a prayer at graduation.

 

Except that you so easily skip right over a major part of it.

 

Praying for the Cleveland Browns is less a matter of religion and more a matter of wishful thinking.

 

The kid has the perfect platform to say whatever he wants during his speech. He can rail against prayer in school or he can talk about the best way to shave a sheep, I don't give a shit. But the student body voted for the prayer. The school is not forcing anyone to pray who doesn't want to. He does not have to participate. I'm not religious, and I'm uncomfortable around prayer. But it's freaking 15 seconds of words he doesn't have to agree with. The real world is gonna scare the fuck out of this kid.

 

If this was the good old days, I'd kick your ass.

 

Is drunk-drunk kinda the same as rape-rape? [/Whoopi Goldberg]

 

But a point of the amendment, CB, is that a majority is not to impose a religion on the minority. The kids' vote is utterly irrelevant.

And YGster, in the good ole days, you'd be beaten up for your tattoos unless you were on the Barbary Coast.