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Inside the Red Sox meltdown

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Schilling made a killing investing in JH hedge fund so maybe not.
     
  2. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    At this point, if the stuff in the story came from anyone but Lucchino, I'd be stunned. His fingerprints are all over it.
     
  3. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Double,

    That's always what gets me. I'm not as close to the story, so I'm not as sure it's Larry Lucchino (although I don't doubt you). But, what I do know is that whoever the source was, everyone involved or named -- plus other media -- has to realize exactly who it is. Can't understand how anyone leaking this stuff thinks they're going to get away unscathed.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Larry is his own Evil Empire.
     
  5. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Schilling should not have to keep his mouth shut because he was paid a lot of money by ownership. Can you not see a pattern of ownership leaking shit to the media?
     
  6. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    The team has done well in spite of Lucchino, not because of him.

    And Dan Shaughnessy, with whom I rarely agree, is right on.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/10/13/theo_epsteins_departure_latest_sign_on_chaos_with_red_sox/
     
  7. Larry Lucchino has raised the revenue for the club significantly. He has added seating to Fenway, additional advertising at the park and numerous marketing partnerships like the one with Mass General Hospital that I mentioned earlier. Lucchino has also harmed the club with his slimy leaks to willing writers of whom Shank Shaughnessy has been at the top of the list.

    When Lucchino's people wanted to add seats on top of the Green Monster - Shaughnessy wrote that it was an abomination and would ruin the ballpark. He was completely wrong about that. Then his daughter got a job with Tom Werner's production company and Shank became a Red Sox company man with hardly ever a complaint in writing about the team. Is his daughter no longer employed by Tom Werner? Shouldn't we know that to better understand what Shaughnessy's motivations are here? Why not? The Boston Globe thought it was worthy to note that Terry Francona's son and son-in-law being deployed in Afghanistan may have been effecting his performance - could Shaughnessy's daughter's employment status be effecting his? And if you think that really isn't any of the reader's business - then how about the clear conflict of interest in that article of Shank slamming NESN and praising Comcast [SportsNet] without ever mentioning that he receives significant sums of money from Comcast as a frequent "contributor" to the channel? (I put contributor in scare quotes because I would argue he subtracts and not contributes to a broadcast.)

    Both the Red Sox ownership and the Boston Globe have smeared themselves with shit in this sordid episode. I find it telling that the only people stand up enough to go on record were Francona and Pedroia. Even Bob Hohler seems to have disappeared back down his hidey-hole. Why isn't he making the talk-show rounds talking up the hit piece if it was a worthy piece of journalism?
     
  8. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    You can accuse Shaughnessy of a lot of things, but never writing a bad word about a subject--especially the Sox--is about dead last on the list.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I had some business dealings with both Luchino and Henry and found that Luchino was good at manipulating Henry to get what he wanted.
     
  10. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I didn't realize next year is the 100 year anniversary of Fenway.

    What a mess.
     
  11. Tell you what BYH - you show me the years his daughter was employed by Tom Werner's company and then show me (if you can) any articles he wrote during that time that was critical of ownership. The Shank you think you know was writing odes like this to the Red Sox:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/04/12/no_place_like_home/?page=full

    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/04/11/new_ballgame/?page=full

    People who follow the Red Sox know that Shaughnessy is a joke. It is the people outside of Boston that think he has a following. He's the Marriotti of Boston without the personal baggage.
     
  12. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    America smiles.

    New York tells them to act like they've been here before.
     
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