Is Democracy a short-termer?

This former Catholic seminarian echoes the Bastard's words.

Book of Revelations as still-unresolved prediction of a certain future waiting to unfold? Nope. Not to any Catholics I grew up with, learned from or studied with.

 

Glad we know where you stand on that one now. So are you also subscribing to the pre-Vatican II thinking that all non-Catholics are condemned for not being in the right denomination?

 

he is saying it is right-wing catholics who think catholicism took a wrong turn after vatican II if i read correctly. he does not go along with that theory

 

Thanks, mc. You have the right of it.
And it was nearly Father J_D? Who knew?
(Which order, J?)

 

Has this actually turned into a debate about the Apocalypse of John and it's bearing on geopolitics?

 

Yes. It's called a Fenianjack.

 

Well, assuming current climactic change has mankind as it's primary source, then it is correct that a democracy is probably not the most efficient form of government to address the problem.
But freedom comes with a price tag, and the freedom's afforded by democracy carry with them the price,among others, of that form of government's inadequacies and inefficiencies.

 

My mother is obsessed with a dude on EWTN named Father Corapi. The channel is always on when I'm at the house. She even ordered his tapes and got his autograph.

 

Also, although I am not personally religious, my parents are very old-school conservative Catholics.
When I was a child, we attended a Tridentine Mass in Latin, and I attended catechism classes at the same Benedictine monastery where we attended Mass. I don't recall Revelations being discussed much.
Obviously, that's not the same as being in the seminary. I'm just saying the Apocalypse — other than the concept of the full body resurrection — was not stressed.

 

Boy, I still do love me some Latin mass, though.


UPDATE -- And, Ides, the Revelations 'jack was started by young Dammit, if you'll scroll back a ways.

 

I thought it was pretty neat when I was younger.
On the occassions when I have to go to Mass these days — family functions like weddings, funerals, christenings — the Novus Ordo Mass always seems so much less weighty.
My parents celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary in 2005, and we went to their parish for Mass and a little vow renewal ceremony. It was the first time I'd been to a Latin Mass in ages. I caught myself thinking: 'Now this is what church should feel like.'

 

It may be impressive, but it's like going to an Italian opera. I still walk out and say "I didn't understand a bit of that." I guess it's worship by some senses of the human ability, but processing a sermon...just don't think so.