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Is RG3 done?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Mr. Sunshine, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Well, Fran was the guy who lost the big games, but he put up big numbers and got teams to the big game. He wasn't in the same category of "loser" as the Tim Couches and Akili Smiths of the world. He was more like Don Meredith, or Elway before he met Terrell Davis.
     
  2. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I don't think Leinart is a fair comp.
    He was an immature asshat, but only got 18 career starts, and just seven post-2006.
    Far less of a chance than Harrington (76 starts). Leaf (16 starts) probably had a legitimate personality disorder.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Why not Starman? Gotta love it - Always looking for the tick in woodpile so to
    speak.
     
  4. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Didn't Tarkenton get in trouble for selling people, ah, a bill of goods?
     
  5. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    Yeah, why focus on an active QB when you can criticize someone who flamed out years ago?
     
  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    I was old enough to pay attention when Tarkenton got shipped out of Minnesota the first time, and then when he got dumped by the Giants, and let me assure you, "he's a loser/ can't win the big or even medium-big ones" was a very prevalent opinion across the NFL media.

    It's also hilarious to hear Tarkenton, probably the most 'mechanically' disastrous of the all-time 'great' QBs, kvetch and moan about one-step drops, five-step drops, etc etc. Tarkenton was the 1960s/70s master of the 'lose 30 yards on a busted play, then throw the ball away underhanded/sidearm/behind your back' highlight reel.
     
  7. BDC99

    BDC99 Well-Known Member

    Clever, but I thought it was totally bush league.
     
  8. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    I was around then, too, and you're right about the perception of Tarkenton (though as I recall, the NY fans loved him when he was there). And, as noted, the same sorts of things were said about Meredith. And both were light-years beyond the disaster Robert Griffin III has become.

    Tarkenton was absolutely the master of those busted plays, but it wasn't because he couldn't take a proper drop.
     
  9. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    When I first read his quote I thought he said he sympathized with griffin, which made sense noting what you just said.

    However, I've got to disagree with the dumped by the giants thing. The Vikings sent a first rounder, second rounder, norm Snead and two others. Yeah, the giants management felt he was a pain and said he couldn't win, but the Vikings got him to put some spark in a humdrum offense.
     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Yeah, my recollection is Giants fans were quite upset when he was shipped out.
     
  11. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    i was. I was there and to this day Tarkenton is my favorite Giant. got Bob Grim a pro bowl WR with the Vikings, who the Vikings drafted with one of the choices the Giants gave them fir Fran in 67. The Vikings also drafted Ed White and Ron Yary. Giants gave up 3 first round and a second fior Tarkenton
     
  12. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    Teams used to give up truckloads of picks for quarterbacks. The Packers traded two 1s , two 2s and a 3 for John Hadl.
     
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